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    Posted 7 years ago

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    This came from the estate of William Riley Brock, CSA private
    February 23, 1862
    Roll dated January 30, 1865 MUSTER ROLL OF COMPANY K ?18th REGIMENT ?GEORGIA VOLUNTEER INFANTRY ?ARMY NORTHERN VIRGINIA CSA ?BARTOW COUNTY, GEORGIA ?"ROWLAND INFANTRY" ?Date of enlistment of this company given as March 1, 1861
    This was in the family collection of Civil War related items including a large family portrait wearing his CSA Medal of Honor Medal. The photo is not of W.R.Brock as he was a poor man and lived in a very rustic cabin. This is very important looking man and the Document/Letter tucked in his vest must have a special meaning. This daguerreotype has the original sealed copper plate and is in a velvet case with latch on front all original circa 1850- 1860's.
    Thanks for any help.

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    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 7 years ago
    2. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      I am not sure what you are looking for on this one-- a cold ID is very hard without any other information.

      Since you mention original seals, I assume you have already looked for an ID in the back of the case as this was often done in the era.

      Some other "thoughts":
      - Based on appearance, I would think that it is possible that this image is an ambrotype (your familiarity with antique images may allow you to say without doubt it is a dag??)
      - The Medal of Honor that you mention is most probably the "Southern Cross of Honor", which was awarded by the UDC to all CS veterans.

      Good luck.

    3. asfoundantiques asfoundantiques, 7 years ago
      The back has the copper plate taped & sealed I know the Daguerreotype image is formed on a highly polished silver surface, normally Sheffield plate which is normally silver on copper . This does not have the Blacked out back on the glass of the Ambrotype's.
      My thoughts are could it be Alexander H. Stephens the Confederate Vice President. His family was from Crawfordville, Taliaferro County, Georgia
      That could one be one reason the family had it could the letter be when Georgia seceded from union or his corner stone speech ? Later photos images show him withdrawn and sickly , this image is a man in his prime . Any Thoughts ??
    4. scottvez scottvez, 7 years ago
      It is not Stephens.

      The "letter" is just his white shirt.

      Here is a posting that gives my thoughts on identification of antique images through comparisons:

    5. asfoundantiques asfoundantiques, 7 years ago
      William Riley Brock, CSA Was awarded his Southern Cross of Honor in 1904 at an Elaborate Ceremony at Cedar Town City Hall Polk County Ga.Presenting the award's to the surviving 58 men.
      There was an original war time version see below
      The original wartime medal, aka Confederate Medal of Honor, was a military decoration meant to honor officers, non commissioned officers, and privates for their valor in the armed forces of the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War. It was formally approved by the Congress of the Confederate States on October 13, 1862,[1] and was originally intended to be on par with the "Union Army's Medal of Honor"

      The postwar version of the medal, which is a separate award than the original wartime medal, came into being following a reunion in 1898. The idea of bestowing the Southern Cross of Honor to Confederate veterans of the American Civil War was conceived in Atlanta in July 1898 by Mrs. Alexander S. (Mary Ann Lamar Cobb) Erwin of Athens, GA, at a reunion of Confederate veterans. Mrs. Erwin and Mrs. Sarah E. Gabbett of Atlanta are credited with the design of the medal. The medal was at this point authorized by the UDC to be awarded to any Confederate Veteran who had provided "loyal, honorable service to the South and given in recognition of this devotion."[2]
    6. asfoundantiques asfoundantiques, 7 years ago
      No it is a Letter/note I can see his shirt his Tie and his floral Patterned Vest under his jacket.
      The Letter/ Note goes outside his vest on the right side of his chest showing it is not his shirt it also covers a portion of his tie. This is a pretty clear image and his shirt is seen slightly under his tie above letter and a little showing right of his tie.It is definitely a document or Letter.
      I have read the look a likes Grant Ect. so many it can drive you crazy. I assure you I will find who this is . I will go to University of Georgia in Athens for some help they are a great group of researchers.

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