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    Posted 6 years ago

    LOUMANAL
    (417 items)

    We've had these Ruby fine-ribbed items for over twenty years, ever since we bought them at a country estate auction. I always assumed that they were FENTON "SHEFFIELD" pattern items but after looking them up in many reference books, I was never able to find a listing/reference to a 7 3/8" by 4 1/4" tall bowl. There is a 10" plate listed. If they are Fenton Sheffield, it would date them 1936-1938. The Ruby color is almost iridescent. Was there a bowl this size made by Fenton in Ruby Sheffield? Thanks everyone, RER(BOB)

    Solved!! They are Made by IMPERIAL GLASS, Pattern # 779 in Ruby

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    1. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you nutsabotas6, vetraio50, aghcollect, racer4four, clockerman, mikelv85 and antiques-in-nj for the love. Any Fenton experts out there? BOB
    2. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 6 years ago
      Are they Villeroy and Boch?, haven't done any research they just look like some of their styles.

      And the shape is a little Scottish too....lol...I have no idea tonight but they are lovely..
    3. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you AnneLanders! Did Villeroy & Boch make this type of Design?. The Auction was held at an old Country Farm estate....the elderly couple had been placed in a Nursing Home. I would think that Elegant Glass would be accurate since they are better quality than Depression Glass. BOB
      Thank you also SEAN68 for the love.
    4. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you AnneLanders and smiata for the love. RER(BOB)
    5. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you southcop and antiques-in-nj for the love. RER(BOB)
    6. wksgibson wksgibson, 6 years ago
      My first "guess" is Anchor Hocking, Queen Mary (Prismatic Line) "Vertical Ribbed" 1936-1949 made in pink, crystal and some ruby red. But I don't know of a bowl with those dimensions either.
    7. wksgibson wksgibson, 6 years ago
      Second guess is a toss up between several of Federal Glass's vertical patterns.??
    8. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      I looked at that pattern too but the pattern in the center of the plates is not the same. The quality of the glass is way better in these items. My main question is: Is it Fenton? Thanks for your input wksgibson, RER(BOB)
    9. Parkerhouse Parkerhouse, 6 years ago
      Is your plate 10"?
      Re the "iridescent":
      "A few pieces, such as the rose bowl in the photo have been found with an iridescent finish." Page 276 - Fenton Art Glass 1907-1939 - 2nd Edition - Whitmyer.
      They look like Sheffield to me.
      Have you checked with the Facebook Fenton group?
    10. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Yes, the plate is 10". I have the first edition of Whitmyer's Fenton Art Glass which does not mention Iridescent Ruby in a Rose Bowl. Could this 7 3/8" wide bowl be a Rose Bowl? I am not on Facebook but it would be great if they could have a look at these items. It looks like Sheffield to me too but it's the bowl that throws a loop. Thanks for your input Parkerhouse. RER(BOB)
    11. Parkerhouse Parkerhouse, 6 years ago
      The bowl is "cupped" correct?
    12. Parkerhouse Parkerhouse, 6 years ago
      And, no, that bowl is not a rose bowl. They are round, like a ball.
    13. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Photo four on the right is exactly what it looks like....a regular bowl. BOB
    14. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      it might help to have a side profile shot of the bowl (from with side to show the full profile of the bowl including the bottom). It does not look cupped to me, as cupped typically means the rim is rolled in toward the center of the bowl. The pics looks like sloped sides.
    15. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 6 years ago
      hi again, and can we have a really good shot of the base pls?
      Anything etched on the under rim or side?
      Yes Villeroy and Boch did a few items similar but I'm not an expert. They made very heavy red glass items. I'll have a browse and see but the other posters might be closer with an American maker...will see...:)
    16. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Hi! Thanks AnneLanders and TallCakes! I just added two different photos showing the shape and under-base of the bowl. The under-base is the same as the plate. BOB
    17. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 6 years ago
      yup thanks, just looking now ;)
    18. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      the last pic is at an angle and a bit dark for me to make out the shape/profile of the bowl. The camera needs to be at the same level with the bowl
    19. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      I've added a better side view of the bowl. There are no markings whatsoever on the bowl or plate. BOB
    20. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      BOB, I think this may be Imperial Glass #779 Empire. Both the bowl and plate are in the catalog matching the profile and dimensions.
    21. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      As Professor Higgins once said to Lisa Doolittle: "By George, I think you've got it". I do have the Trilogy books of Imperial Glass and YES, that is what they are. They date from the 1930's like the Sheffield (Fenton) pattern does. It states that it was one of Imperial Glass Co's best seller in the 30's. Thanks again for this Fine Research, BOB
    22. Parkerhouse Parkerhouse, 6 years ago
      Ding! Ding! Ding! Glad we have a winner. "Cupped" was the only term I could think of to ask about the shape of the bowl. :) Glad you solved your mystery!
    23. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you for your help Parkerhouse! BOB
    24. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you also AnneLanders for your help, BOB
    25. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      you're very welcome; glad you had the books with reference, as I didn't really see any good online specimens. : )
    26. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      Thank you jensen and Moonstonelover21 for the love. BOB

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