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    Posted 6 years ago

    valentino97
    (700 items)

    Thank you Scottvez for giving me more information on this wonderful old image: a daguerreotype half-plate circa 1850's in nice old burled frame (overall 11"x13). I watched Cold Mountain again this weekend and recognized the vest the gentleman is wearing is at least 1860's. Don't clean this image! Mine was so filthy - could hardly see anything so I took this out of frame and wiped w/t-shirt - and cleaned the glass but Scott said that was enough - and put it back right away. Thanks!

    Pic 2: I've enjoyed looking at other friends collections and how they actually look in their home.

    On this tiny wall 6 ft 6" x 9 ft high: The main oil was painted by a long-ago resident here of the beach outside our bldg. It's marked St. Regis in pencil on frame. Not great art but to me? GREAT ART. Yes, it needs restoring. It belongs to the bldg. but I saved it from being thrown out to the thrift store a few yrs ago. Above you see my copper masks 1930's-50's, a very strange 1950's chalkware Mary plaque, a very nice ceramic Delft art tile of 2 geese, Godey's women's litho print 1866 and ...some of my fabulous bakelite buckles threaded on a satin ribbon. No the lampshade isn't old, but the lamp is. Wonderful old sewing box and wool latch rug. Great old Blanket box circa 1920....and 3 wood tourist boxes from Mexico.

    Pic 3 shows the extent of my taxidermy items for Fortapache to enjoy: Scary FL alligator claw and mink foot from Hungary. I love old graphic images - this one is from a Redstone matchbox cover.

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    1. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Thank you Lee and AGH for your fast loves!

      Thanks Ken - yes this is that 1962 globe I posted awhile ago. Good to have when our far flung CW friends post.
    2. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
      Clever way to show your buckles. Love the Leopard but scared by what's hanging of it...like the ladies in their dresses too. Very clever and interesting area!!!!
    3. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Amber hope you are having a great vacation! Look forward to seeing your new green bracelet. Thank you - My apt is small but the ceilings are high - so can hang my items as high as I can reach. And like looking at my things. I live alone - no one can complain. The Godey's ladies are from Jan 1866 book. I agree....the foot key chains are creepy.
    4. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Phil - there's no signature, only marked St. Regis on lower right corner of fumed wood frame. I'm pretty sure this oil painting hung in our lobby because a few years ago when everything was cleaned out for the condo conversion this painting was hanging in the old lobby doorman's cubbyhole. They wanted to send it to Goodwill w/other unclaimed things and I asked if I could have it. My building is on the national register. Building started in 1922 and planned to be a 15 story high-rise, but economy was not good only got to 7 floors.

      The painting is not in great shape. Never behind glass and some tiny tears on the canvas. There are no old-timers anymore at the St. Regis who might know about this painting. Because it was in the doorman's cubbyhole...I'm pretty sure it hung in the lobby. Our lobby is pretty fabulous. That's another post.
    5. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      The frame on the image is the "star of the show" in my opinion! I couldn't see it all in the other pictures.

      The veneer has held up very well. It was most likely sold by the photographer with the dag-- any marks or labels on the back? May be able to pinpoint a location with even remnants of a label.

      scott
    6. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Thank you friends for your love: Kevin, rniederman, racer4man, mike, Kerry, geo and Manikin!
    7. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Amber could you bring me another claw from your vacation?
    8. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Scott - thanks again for your help with this! No, It has nothing on the back and I searched every little layer. No marks at all. There is a separate gold "frame" and dag were very carefully taped together so that the dag doesn't touch the glass. It's a great old frame isn't it? I wish they were holding hands. She doesn't look very happy.
    9. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Thank you Phil - will post my lobby with the original sales brochure when I find it...
    10. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      idcloisonne - really an HOUR? I thought it was only 5 or 10 minutes. She looks so unhappy - it's sad to me. Yes, it would be good to have another category for collection/displays. That was a great idea - thank you!
    11. rniederman rniederman, 6 years ago
      For early photography that required exposures lasting minutes (i.e. dag and wetplate), a wide variety of studio equipment was available to steady people. The most well known are head-clamps. Some were freestanding while furniture had restraining devices.

      The first commercial dag announcement was in January 1839. These first images did indeed take a long time. But images such as this (20 years later) benefited from improvements in the process and chemistry. Years back I posted an interesting a book that has a terrific real-life story about dag photography. You can see it here: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/64571-the-daguerreotypist--a-story-from-the-1
    12. rniederman rniederman, 6 years ago
      And for those who are interested in the topic of dag photography, here is a c.1854 American dag camera in my collection: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/9985-palmer-and-longking-daguerreotype-camera
    13. rniederman rniederman, 6 years ago
      FWIW ... I agree with Scott ... the dag frame is great.
    14. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 6 years ago
      It looks as if she's sitting on his left hand......no wonder she's not smiling......must be uncomfortable. RER(BOB)
    15. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      First of all thank you for so many informative comments!

      idcloisonne: thanks and I agree it's fun to get a glimpse into CW friends' lives!

      rniederman: thank you for your expertise. I'm glad you like my dag.

      Loumanal: his hand is behind her back. Now I'm wondering if she might be holding on to wire or neck chain that might be helping her stay seated upright? Kind of a gruesome thought.

      Also thank you for the loves: kyratango, fortapache and hedgewalker.

    16. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      The advancements in photography were fairly quick. By the time of this image, sitting times were less than a minute.

      Still amazingly long by our 21st century standard, but short when compared to the 15- 20 minutes of the earliest portrait dags.

      scott
    17. valentino97 valentino97, 6 years ago
      Scott - thanks - yes a minute is long to sit motionless. Maybe she is gripping a locket on her chain?
    18. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 5 years ago
      i love these little arrangements! i'd like to look closer at the nighttime seascape.
    19. valentino97 valentino97, 5 years ago
      Hi there ho2cultcha - this is my tiny living room wall. The painting is dark but I'll take some pix and post. Thanks for asking! Let's see if I have enough light tonight...

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