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Posted 4 years ago

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when i saw this vase it reminds me one model in the book "le genie verrier d'europe" the etching was quite similar, and the floral pattern also very close. after few day of reaserch, ive found that it is what i was thinking.
a saint louis vase, in the book, the models where produced by saint louis and created by desiré christian. i've not found this model in the "catalogue raisonné" of desiré christian ... but.... it could be one-)

H 15cm

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  1. kyratango kyratango, 4 years ago
    mystery, or not?
  2. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    is it signed? because all st.louis items were signed . so this is not st.louis , I had just gotten off the phone with a gentleman from hermes who has said that even the art nouveau ones were acid signed on the bottom as well . why don't you take it into the ST LOUIS shop where you live ? that would solve this mystery you have right away!!
  3. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    You live in france . you have instant access to these shops ........
  4. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago

    signed piece
  5. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    not acid etched , but molded signed sorry ...
  6. paris1925 paris1925, 4 years ago
    hi sean , it is unsigned and it is saint louis, i've got the same model signed in an auction house.... this is not. the model i've found was acid etched like baccarat signatures, softly acid etched, usually the biggest piece of saint louis are deeper or in relief molded.

    i read again my book, saint louis excecuted the " blanc" io dont know the word, glass vases without decoration but with layered glass, they produced a part for desiré christian strudio who make the pattern and etching.... it could explain why this piece is unsigned. it coulkd be signed and the gold scrpt will, left... well i hope to find the auction to put it here as documentation-)
  7. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    so take it to a dealer or take it to a st.louis store and have them check it out . it would be a lot easier .But I was told that all st .Louis is either signed or molded signed.
  8. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    I will be calling the bergstrom Mahler museum and find out . because they have a collection from going way back and I know the curator there as well.
  9. paris1925 paris1925, 4 years ago
    hi sean i will ask the saint louis museum if i dont found this vase again-) thanks for your interest and help-)
  10. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    Hello Paris!! your very welcome Paris!!!
  11. inky inky, 4 years ago
    Hello paris1925...I have two of these vases and mine are not signed either!...:-)
  12. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    Hello Pari "don't ask" you need to "take it to them" so they examine the piece to see if its a yes or a no.
  13. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    That way they can write this down or document this correctly. Into their system.
  14. inky inky, 4 years ago
    After doing heaps of research some time ago I came to the conclusion mine were possibly by Baccarat... this is the only link I can find at the moment
  15. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    And sometimes you really have to be careful buying these on ebay, because theres too many attributions , ive noticed in the listing title they say "BACCARAT,DAUM" , To be honest I really don't think they don't know of what they have.
  16. inky inky, 4 years ago
    I didn't and I wouldn't..if there is one thing I have learnt is not to believe anything when someone is trying to sell without looking into it further, like most..this!! and most sellers on eBay they is covering all bases...I did say the "possibly" ...this is just one! example I could find at the moment...there have been others!...but! I still wouldn't say mine is definitely am finding this post very interesting!...:-)
  17. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    I so agreed with you inky!! :)
  18. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    Hello Paris, there is another reason why , I said that wasn't st Louis also is because the "THICKNESS" AS WELL . this vase seems to very thin and shallow as well . If you look at all of the other st Louis antique crystal it is very very thick , still like how it is today. please go to comment 4 and youll also see how thick the crystal was even then. and when doing a posting , you should always post the bottom still and the top as well , that way we can help determined what the glass is about as well.
  19. paris1925 paris1925, 4 years ago
    hi friends thaks for all advises and tips-) i will search again to identify that piece, usually baccarat where not signed before1936 the oldest piece were with a paper label. inki the link of the perfume bottle you put it there..... crazy price!!!!

    i bougth this vase for 50 eu.

    yesterday i've found the archives link to my vase sold as saint louis and signed, just can't open the link it was an ebay sale.

    i was chaching all auction on aretvalu for saint louis glass, also in maybe i could find more in german auction houses.

  20. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
    Hello Paris, well . I guess ..... then that's a wrap :) I only can help you as much as I can then , good luck and please.. give us further update in the future then. :)
  21. paris1925 paris1925, 4 years ago
    hi sean , mail sent to cristallerie de saint louis-)

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