Posted 9 years ago
Chrislouise
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I would like to have these bowls identified. They were passed on to me by my mother. I don't know whether she got them in Holland [her mother country] or Australia where she emigrated to back in 1960 and where I now live.
I have two bowls. They have a scalloped edge and the top edge has a diameter of 15cms. They have a fish design both inside and out.
Try gotheborg.com
There's an antique dealer in Lisbon selling a similar bowl for 735 euro ;) https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/asian-art-furniture/ceramics/bowl-china-porcelain/id-f_1526622/
The dealer's bowl has a four character mark for Kangxi Nian Zhi ('Kangxi Period Make'), and per Gotheborg: "As a general rule, all four character Kangxi Nian Zhi marks written inside double circles or without circles are from the end of the 19th century or later." (See under 'Kangxi' here http://gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml )
Your bowl's mark refers to a different emperor, but I haven't figured out which one. However, it seems like your bowl and the dealer's were made at the same place, and it seems for export to European markets(?).
Thank you so much for that information. That means my mother must have bought it in Holland where we come from. It certainly gives me something to go on. I didn't think it was 19th century though, but who knows. Thanks again
this Blue and White Yuan Dynasty Style Fish ( copy) without the algae
Noob is right but it is not the whole story the lower limit of the dating is about 1870 mostly 1890 concerning kangxi possible defined as the kangxi revival pieces , but this don,t mean that much , because the upper date limit is much later
but your bowl aint Kangxi revival , actually , your mark on the bowl is unknown to me, and i know a lot of marks , maybe i missed it , but it is a mysterie
actually i highly doubt this is 19 century smooth white bottom, no tiny ruptures, and i got my doubs about the fluidum in the double rim on the bottom
but these type vases or hot nowadays so there is value left
POPSICKLE, POPSICKLE
well it remains strange , but this must be some kind of modified abrreviated kangxi
the right under symbol is unknown to me , i ran it in hundreds of ways and picture recognition, probably my databank is not sufficient
but the right upper symbol is always co leading the stylised it wrong , they made the roof top een upper slash, which is sloppy
the double rim on the back is of different fluidum ( thin small etc ) which is an good sign
on the front side there is an differnce in aftreglaring which i thought was tonality dispersion , but it aint
inner rim is leave design and the outer rim got part of the pending jewel design
so this is an genuine blue and white FOLIATE fish lotus bowl late 19 century
addendum i take any wager against ANY research team
addendum secundo , i am not allowed to to discuss value , but let,s say up to 300 euro is trash and yours is not trash
and you owe me a popsicle
greetings Waki
FINE 19THC CHINESE BLUE WHITE FISH LOTUS FOLIATE PORCELAIN BOWL KANGXI MARKS 1
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did not mention the result otherwise i am breaking the rules
and the reason why it was impossible to trace they integrated the 4 dots right under into a 2 dot symbol , and the computer don,t recognize it, we have to manually
check it , so you don,t live in doubt
greetings Waki