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    Posted 6 years ago

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    I can't believe these were being thrown away after a yardsale. I snatched them up and since they were in amazing shape. Not a scaratch or any other type of damage. I thought they were just vintage libbey glasses. I got them home and realized a lot of things were not quite adding up. The amazing clarity and weight were the first indications. Then I noticed the slight remains of a polished pontil and investigated further and found out they were eapg flint ashburton goblets. I'm so happy I rescued these. People throw away so much history. I'm not sure but I read this pattern was made as early as 1850's Does anyone have an idea of how old these particular ones are by the pictures and also which company. Seriously where have these things been hiding out for all of these years?

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    1. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      Very nice find but these appear to be Westmoreland Glass #1885 Ashburton; reproduction pattern from 1960s. There are a number of similar flint glass Ashburton patterns from 1840s-70s.
    2. EAPGDepression EAPGDepression, 6 years ago
      No sorry. These are the real deal. I already checked that. Those ones have an icky tinge. These are crystal clear flint with polished pointils. It's hard to see the pontils because they did such a nice job. You can see them better outside the photographs. Also note the wavy mold marks and batch stone inclusions in the bases. Also another distinct difference is these ones have a rounder shape in the pattern. They are really similar though.
    3. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      you might consider more research. Westmoreland made quality glass; not sure what "icky tinge" means... It is often difficult to discern from photos alone the specific patterns like 'Ashbutron' which has multiple very similar versions by different makers. You need to looks closely at the shape of the glass, the minute details and actual measured sizes; sometimes black light reaction may be helpful as well. I can only say that from these odd angled photos the closest I see when comparing a dozen or so different Ashburton lines is that these compare closest to Westmoreland's reproductions, which were made in quality glass.
    4. broge007, 6 years ago
      These are just gorgeous.
    5. EAPGDepression EAPGDepression, 6 years ago
      I added some new pictures to further support my claim. If you look closely this pattern is more arched at the top while Westmorelands pattern is more squared off. Also you can clearly see the mold lines are not straight but wavy and there is a visible pontil. Thank you for the information though. I had the oppurtunity to learn about another Asburton pattern. If anyone has any information on these I'd love to know!
    6. TallCakes TallCakes, 6 years ago
      Sorry but the added pics don't help me; it's difficult sometimes to show details in photos with crystal. Petcoff has a pretty good selection of Ashburton pieces with dimensions given that may help (just scroll down to Ashburton):
    7. EAPGDepression EAPGDepression, 6 years ago
      The glasses have very minute differences in height which I find to be pretty interesting. I just noticed after setting them upside down. I'll take a look at that in a little bit. Thanks!
    8. Rick55 Rick55, 6 years ago
      Regardless of the maker EAPG, I love them!!
    9. EAPGDepression EAPGDepression, 6 years ago
      Thanks Rick55
    10. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      These are nice. The best type of find there is, right??? Sometimes I set things out just to see how quickly they get swooped up! It's all good. What comes around, goes around!
    11. EAPGDepression EAPGDepression, 6 years ago
      It was confirmed by the woman who manages the site you gave me TallCakes that these are indeed not Westmoreland but flint. Yay!

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