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    Posted 7 years ago

    mcgyver25
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    I got this at an estate sale. And wondered how old this is and what kind. thank you. It is an illinois pocket watch. with 183 inscribed on it.

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    1. kerry10456 kerry10456, 7 years ago
      Copy the serial# off the movement(The workings) and compare to this chart...will give you date of MFG:
      http://www.pocketwatchrepair.com/histories/illinois.html

      Beautiful watch, thanks for sharing
    2. TubeAmp TubeAmp, 7 years ago
      Maybe in here:
      https://archive.org/details/bookofalincolnwa00illi

      T A
    3. kerry10456 kerry10456, 7 years ago
      good call TA :-)
    4. pw-collector pw-collector, 7 years ago
      The 183 on the case is the Model 183 Keystone Watch Case Co. It does not identify your watch. As Kerry said, the serial number on the watch movement will identify the watch.
      My guess is it is a:
      12 size watch
      Extra Thin
      3rd Model
      19 jewels
      Illinois Watch Company (Obviously)
      Grade: A. Lincoln (Obviously)
      With the serial number the approximate manufacture date can be determined.
      Dave
    5. kerry10456 kerry10456, 7 years ago
      And to Dave.... great info, with all these suggestions, your "Mystery" should find resolution in short order
    6. pw-collector pw-collector, 7 years ago
      Most A. Lincoln grade movements were 21 jewels.
      The only 19 jewel, A. Lincoln grades that I can find listed are in the 12 size movements.
      Here are some serial number runs that your watch might be in:
      3,705,851 - 3,705,900 (no jewel count listed in this run)
      4,018,501 - 4,019,000
      4,122,001 - 4,123,000
      4,269,001 - 4,270,000
      4,450,001 - 4,450,100
      4,450,101 - 4,451,000
      These are all 12 size, Model 3, A. Lincoln Grade, open face movements that are 19 jewels.

      Dave
    7. mcgyver25, 7 years ago
      thanks for your wonderful comments. Added in the serial numbers to it. 4738113
    8. pw-collector pw-collector, 7 years ago
      I see I missed some numbers.

      Grade: 587
      "A. Lincoln" - Extra Thin Model

      Manufacturer:Illinois
      Manufacturer Location: Springfield, Illinois
      Movement Serial Number:4738113
      Grade:587
      Model: 3xt
      Estimated Production Year: 1926
      Run Quantity: 1,000
      Total Production:1,000
      Size:12s
      Jewels:19j
      Movement Configuration:Openface
      Movement Finish:Unknown
      Movement Setting:Pendant
      Plate:3/4 Plate
      Barrel: Motor
      Adjusted: Unknown
      Adjusted # of Positions: Unknown
      Railroad Grade: No
      Notes: "A. Lincoln" - Extra Thin Model

      Dave
    9. pw-collector pw-collector, 7 years ago
      According to my book, it list serial numbers 4,738,001 - 4,739,000
      as grade 587 as listed above and not as a A. Lincoln grade. This would
      would lead me to believe very few examples of this run were marked A. Lincoln.
      It is evident from your last photo the movement is adjusted to 5 positions.
      Dave
    10. kerry10456 kerry10456, 7 years ago
      Kudos Dave...good job
    11. mcgyver25, 7 years ago
      Hi Dave,

      Thank you very much for such information.

      Highly Appreciate this!

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