Posted 13 years ago
DairyGodmo…
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Curious if anyone can help me with this. I have had this 'vase' for 25 years, and received it as a hand-me-down from my stepmom's mom. I was told at some point it was actually a perfume bottle, and was missing its stopper. I looked around on Ebay, etc, and found very similar bottles to be Baccarat 'rose tiente' - though I can't find my pattern, which look like leaves in vertical rows.
Unfortunately, it has an internal crack at the top opening, and is covered in (don't laugh) candle wax (hey I was a dumb teenager). On the bottom, it is etched either 211 or 112 (I dont know how to hold it when reading this, and the 2 is shaped symmetrically). If you hold it with the numbers on the bottom, it is 211.
Here are my questions:
- Does it appear to be Baccarat rose tiente?
- Has anyone seen this pattern or know what its called? Is it rare (I enjoy the thought of this, not for the value but for its own sake.)
- Does anyone know howl old it is?
- Without the stopper, and with the crack, is it worth anything more than decorative value?
- Any thoughts on removing the wax without cracking it? I guess high heat melting techniques are out. There is wax outside as well as inside.
Any thoughts are appreciated -
How right you are> Most assuredly a Baccarat rose tiente perfume bottle. Ladies dresser articles were produced profusely by Baccarat in it's amberina. Made by adding gold to the glass and reheating. Thus, giving a red to golden appearance. The more gold and time in reheating the deeper the amber color such as your bottle at the neck. Baccarat also made them in a pink color and a rubina(Clear to red) which are often misidentified as rose tiente. They made many other colored glass too. The pattern of yours is known as laurel(leaf representation, you were right again). It is the most uncommon of the three major rose tiente patterns but not rare( a word so oft overused) pattern. The three patterns are swirl - simple twisted raised rib, starburst - raised ribs is a swirled sunburst pattern, and laurel like yours. Rose Tiente was produced from around the turn of the 19th to Twentieth Century through the mid twenties. The pink was produced at the same time until late twenties and then again in 1940 to mid fifties. The deep color of amber and fire of glass (sparkle) would put your piece before 1920. This is not in books but comes from my experience as a most avid collector. Yes, I have been to the museums in France, conversed with every worker from the factory who has been willing to talk with me. It has been told to me the deeper color comes from greater quantity of gold in the glass and time reheating which was only possible during the good economy of the early part of the 1900's. WWI took its' toll on amberina as resources were diverted from consumer goods. The value is not that great. Rose tiente perfume bottles without stopper and with glass faults only sell for $30-40 U.S. dollars. As an art object it is far more pleasurable to look at than that and as heirloom priceless. The 211 is the bottle pattern size number. The crack makes it hard to heat without further potential damage. However there is a wax remover product made by the same people who make goo gone which works wonders without hurting the glass. After the wax is gone, soap and water then Windex and paper towels. My apologies if I am a bit long winded. I simply have a passion for art glass and I have found the early examples of Baccarat Rose Tiente to be in the Top Ten finest glass ever made. The fire and sparkle is cativating when clean and in good light.
Thank you for the detailed reply - I hadn't checked this in a long time and didn't know someone had commented. Special thanks for telling me how to clean it. Now I will be able to enjoy it (as a vase again :-)