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    Posted 6 years ago

    antiquerose
    (1434 items)

    First of all -- NO RELATION to me......LOL.

    Found this at a Sale and I just thought it looked Neat. She does NOT look very happy, but rather suffering from PMS.......LOL. Just MY opinion. Thought it looked Neat.

    Great old photo to show clothing and also some jewelry that she has on.

    Thanks for LOOKING / LOVING !!

    ~ Rose ~

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    1. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 6 years ago
      Carefully remove the backboard and look to see if there is any information written on the back of the photo. Looks to be 1880s or 1890s. Wonder who she was.
    2. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      A face to leave at home! LOL!!
      Antiquerose, new definition of PMS: "When women act the way men do, all the time".
    3. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 years ago
      LOL....I always say tha PMS means:

      P - Permanent
      M - Mean
      S - Steak

      She looks like she is having one.....or just a Bad Day....roflmao
    4. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 6 years ago
      LOL people in antique photos look that way because they had to sit still and hold their pose. Camera shutter speeds were slow in the 1800s. :-)
    5. mikelv85 mikelv85, 6 years ago
      Some people just don't photograph very well. I bet the heavy restrictive clothing women wore in the 19th century wasn't all that comfortable either. She looks like a governess or nanny.
    6. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      Should have told her not to jut her jaw out. If I left that face in my bedroom in the morning, I would abandon everything I had there & spend the day looking for a new place, preferably in a place far, far away! LOL!!
    7. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      Rucklez, I'm not photogenic either at 6:AM (If ever!). LOL!
    8. jscott0363 jscott0363, 6 years ago
      I love this photograph!! This past weekend we found photo album, in an antique mall, from the 1800's that was filled with tin type photos. I can't believe we made it home without them. It was on $50.oo.
    9. bobby725 bobby725, 6 years ago
      I think BB2 is in love.
    10. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      Bobby725, wash yo mouth out with Cutty Sark! LOL! I've never been that drunk!!!!
    11. bobby725 bobby725, 6 years ago
      Sorry bb2! I`m rinsing out with Heaven Hill bourbon instead. :-))
    12. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      "LOL people in antique photos look that way because they had to sit still and hold their pose. Camera shutter speeds were slow in the 1800s. :-)"

      By the time of this image (very late 19th century) exposure times were minimal-- many photographers advertised "instantaneous" photos.

      scott
    13. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      I've never gone to bed with an ugly girl! Woken up with a few, but not "moose-jaw"!! Lived with a German (I have a weakness for Kraut girls) who didn't shave anywhere. Spent an hour one morning with my nose under her arm before I dared open them! Actually like hair now. No scratchy legs. no "rash", & no under-arm odor!
    14. bobby725 bobby725, 6 years ago
      Thanks alot bb2! LOL! bourbon isn`t meant to come out my nose :-(
    15. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      Guess it was too much info. ! Sorry fans! Hey, I never claimed to be discrete! Hey, I live where we don't normally wear clothes on the beach or else-ware. Am I supposed to apologize for that? Guess so!
    16. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 years ago
      I only paid a couple bucks for it -- So a bargain - IMO
    17. Ivonne Ivonne, 6 years ago
      Perhaps she wasn't a beauty but she's got nice big eyes, a serene face and must have been somebody close to somebody if they kept her photo in a frame.
      Rose,you saved her and prolonged her life !
    18. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 years ago
      thanks Ivonne -- I took the back off and there was some writing. I will post that in a PART 2 to this. I can not make out what it says, or what it means.....

      I am so thankful I did not live in those days of their tight corset days. Could you imagine HOW these ladies would feel in OUR clothing now?

      ~~ She also looks like a Determined Lady too, IMO
    19. kyratango kyratango, 6 years ago
      Rose, you did well! Even if not a beauty, she has confidence and sweet eyes.
      Bb2 you are so funny! I love your report of personnal hairy girl experience ;-D
    20. Ivonne Ivonne, 6 years ago
      Comfortable,I guess :)
      Our times has its own discomforts,eg HIGH heels :)
    21. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 6 years ago
      scottvet - In those days, a 5 or 10 minute exposure time photo was "instant". Try sitting still for 5 or 10 minutes with a smile plastered onto your face.

      Her style of clothes look to be 1870s-1880s.

      http://petapixel.com/2013/09/23/didnt-people-smile-old-photos/
    22. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 6 years ago
      There are very few early photos which flatter those in the photos.
      rucklczglass > Glad I don't have to wear clothes like that. Imagine dressing in those clothes during a sweltering summer...ugh!

      http://www.fashion-era.com/la_belle_epoque_1890-1914_fashion.htm

      "By 1895 the leg of mutton sleeves swelled to gigantic proportions and were also used on décolleté evening dresses. The size of the sleeves was highlighted by the comparison of the tiny sashed or belted waist against the simple gored skirt that flared out all round to balance the massive sleeve heads."

      I found these photos of mutton sleeve dresses from the 1890s.

      http://www.fashion-era.com/images/Edwds1890-1915/edwpink600x20.jpg

      http://www.fashion-era.com/images/Edwds1890-1915/edwblupara651x20.jpg
    23. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      "In those days, a 5 or 10 minute exposure time photo was "instant". Try sitting still for 5 or 10 minutes with a smile plastered onto your face."

      Nope-- Exposure times of that length were found with the earlier forms of photography-- daguerreotypes.

      Even late in the daguerreotype age, portraits could be made in a few seconds. Improved cameras (lens) and chemicals aided in lowering the exposure.

      I'd think the dating estimation was accurate in your first posting: 1880- 90s. An image out of the frame may help to confirm.

      Rob (camera collector) may chime in and confirm exposure times.

      BTW, I think the FRAME is the real gem in this acquisition!

      scott
    24. rniederman rniederman, 6 years ago
      Hi all ... this image was shot with a shutter which construes 'instantaneous' photography. By definition, instantaneous refers to sub-second exposures. Daguerrian photography enjoyed significantly shorter exposures with major technology improvements in chemistry and the invention of the Petzval formula lens. By this time, posing stands were still needed but exposures became reasonably short.

      Shutters first came into use around the 1850s during the wet-collodion period. Faster shutters allowing quicker exposures were readily available in the 1880s. Fast exposures could be done under the right conditions with good lighting, improved photographic material, a fast lens and so forth.

      In this image, shadows under the chin and eyebrows combined with brightness on the upper face and hairline suggest that the portrait was shot in a bright studio with a skylight; therefore giving enough light for an instantaneous exposure. Additionally (FWIW), the image looks a little soft (lacking detail) which could mean it is a copy of the original.

      From the 1880s onward, shutters were slicing exposures easily into 1/20th second exposures and could get well into the 1/100th+ seconds range. I have numerous 1880s shutters in my collection that allowed portraits to be made without posing stands.

      Assuming this is a late 1880s to early 1890s image, the exposure time is probably less than one second in duration.

      And I agree with Scott that the frame is nice.
    25. scottvez scottvez, 6 years ago
      Thanks much rob-- I appreciate your input!

      scott
    26. kyratango kyratango, 6 years ago
      Efe, great links!
      Rob is such an expert and high end photograph pieces!
      Very informative comment!
    27. Rick55 Rick55, 6 years ago
      I love these old-time photos Rosie! The clothing and jewelry gives us a little snippet into the past!
    28. OneGoodFind OneGoodFind, 6 years ago
      Ah Rose, you know everyone is going to try to find out who she is now. I hope someone does. Very interesting old pic. Everyone's information and comments are awesome.~~Pretty sure I borrowed her expression today at work!
      All jokes aside, it's cool Rose.
    29. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 6 years ago
      Eleanor R. on a good day?
    30. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 years ago
      posted the writing on the back of this pic -- Still clueless !!!

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/174323-part-ii--of-old-picture-victorian-la?in=activity
    31. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 years ago
      Thanks for the ~ LOVES ~

      SEAN68

      Trey

      OneGoodFind --> LOL OGF!! I think there are days WE all use her facial expression....LOL

      Rick55 --> Thanks RICK!! No one from my family. HONEST ....LOL!!

      walksoftly

      kyratango -- > Thanks for the comment and your opinions, as it is all appreciated. She looks like a Important person......maybe ??

      Ivonne --> Thanks Ivonne!! Yes, it is still a wonderful picture that tells a story. IMHO, it looks like she is WELL DRESSED......?

      vetraio50

      fortapache

      Caperkid

      bobby725

      jscott0363 --> Thanks for the comment!! Yup, it only cost $ 2.00 so I thought it was worth it!!

      rucklczglass --> Thanks Lisa!! Yup, no BOTOX there....LOL

      mikelv85 --> Thanks MIKE!! I would have hated to live during that time WITH all that heavy clothing. Poor lady - No wonder she IS NOT SMILING!!

      racer4four

      Efesgirl --> Thanks for the comment, and assistance!!

      ...@ Blunderbuss2 --> Lol, Thanks for the funny comments!! Not your type, eh? LOL

      ...@ bobby725 -- LOL, at both you and BB there!!

      ....@scottvez -- Now we know why People say " SAY CHEESE....SMILE"

      ...@ rniederman - for YOUR wonderful information!! So informative to learn all this wonderful facts!!

      .....and to all the informative links and INFO on the clothing. Thanks ever so much.

      She seem to be of stature of some sort...well dressed.....or sunday Best. I will try to get pics of the *name* that looks to be at the top -- or get them closer. I think it is just some info on the back as to how it was framed - but their might be a name right at the top.............in the back.

      Whoever she is -- She stirred up a LOT OF LOVE /COMMENTS from all of us!! S
    32. Daisy1000 Daisy1000, 1 month ago
      This was before the time of antibiotics. She could be suffering from any number of things. :)

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