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Midnight1208's loves817 of 1029Crystal Perfume Bottle MulticolorLoetz Candia Papillon vase, PN I-7597 ca. 1898, crossed arrows mark
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    Posted 5 years ago

    billypicke…
    (247 items)

    Hi everybody, Happy Thursday evening. How come I can't find this company or maker, Persian England ?
    It is a light ceramic piece, has some gold lettering numbers etc.

    Can anyone identify for blurry eyes Billy ?

    Thanks

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    1. UglyPots, 5 years ago
      A nice pot, Billy.
      It looks hand-thrown, and I suspect it may be a prototype or pre-production sample. The shape of the vase generally, and the handles especially, are very similar to several pieces of Ellgreave pottery I've either owned or seen and dating from just either side of WWII. Production pieces are moulded and the 'Ellgreave' name is included in the mould, running around the edge of the base. 'Persian' will be the name of the shape (or suggested shape if this shape didn't go into production), and the 'No.2' may refer either to the size, the decoration (I've had two pieces of Ellgreave 'Midas' shape pots with completely different decoration; one floral, the other a geometric, art deco design), or maybe the 2nd suggested shape for the range. I've never seen a piece of production Ellgreave with a No. included in the markings, just factory name, England or Made in England, and the shape name, all moulded. Decoration was always hand-painted, and the pots were usually marked with the painters' initials.
      So, with yours being hand-thrown, and all markings hand-incised, I would say that the owner of one of the sets of initials, likely the one to the left of 'England', was the potter, the other being the decorator, and the pot itself could be quite a rarity. These test pieces were never meant to be sold, just to show to the bosses for approval - or not - to put the shape into production and begin making moulds, etc.
      It would certainly be worth doing some further research; values of normal production pieces aren't high, but if yours really is a prototype it might be more appealing to a collector, and if it never made it into production, then the rarity value would increase the appeal, especially as it is a nice looking piece in it's own right.
    2. billypicker65 billypicker65, 5 years ago
      UglyPots, Thanks a lot. I really appreciate all those words you typed in. now it makes more sense to me.
      Thanks again..

      Billy
    3. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 5 years ago
      Interesting piece, billy, and glad UglyPots was able to help you with it! :)
    4. billypicker65 billypicker65, 5 years ago
      Katherine, Thank You
    5. UglyPots, 5 years ago
      You're welcome, Billy.

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