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    Posted 7 years ago

    vetraio50
    (674 items)

    Bought here in Sydney, Australia.

    Loetz Zephir Chiné. Coral and shell cornucopia as if found on the sea floor.

    I've been told by Alfredo Villanueva that it is from the late nineteenth century.

    For me it represents Naturalism and the influence of Nature on the applied arts.

    Thanks to Dr. K. M. Hasselbach for the PN number: PN=I/7008 1897 !!!

    Comments

    1. ozmarty ozmarty, 7 years ago
      WOW!! SOOOO BEAUTIFUL.
    2. hapoli, 7 years ago
      LOVE,LOVE,LOVE IT
    3. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 7 years ago
      Beautiful! Just Beautiful! THanks for sharing.
    4. Glasseyed Glasseyed, 7 years ago
      Wowza,......Now that's eye candy
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Thanks muchly to you all!
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks BELLIN68, Obscurities, FineLines, Hedgewalker, scottvez, Glasseyed, marcobabe13, Mac63, sam560, mark, Alfredo, LoetzDance, hapoli, bohemianglassandmore, vintagemad, famatta127, ozmarty & LoetzBuddies too!
    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks bratjdd, czechman & miKKoChristmas11 too!
    8. Budek Budek, 7 years ago
      Membranous-like, with an almost macabre beauty,.......I love it!
    9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks Budek!
      I've seen this quote: "Naturalism is the generic term for Art Nouveau, Organic Architecture and Expressionism". Perhaps you've picked up on the expressionist distortion of the concept of 'cornucopia' and placing it in those arms of coral; I agree it's beauty is macabre. The glass artists at Loetz and Kralik (as Alfredo says) were up there with the best.
    10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      MANY THANKS BEAUXPURDY!
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks musikchoo, scandinavian_pieces & Slave-to-glass too!
    12. inky inky, 6 years ago
      STUNNING!!!.....:-)
    13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks vintageloveantiques.com & inky in NZ too!
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks Londonloetzlearner!
    15. collectort, 6 years ago
      Beautiful..
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks collectort!
    17. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks mikielikesigns2!
    18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks greatsnowyowl!
    19. Stillwater Stillwater, 6 years ago
      Oh my god... Was this a thrift store find? Or did you pay retail? I really would like to learn about art glass, but it seems like theres soooo much to know... However, THIS would deffinitely be something I'd pick up at a thrift store, its pretty obviously something good
    20. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      It was from the Collector's Fair here in Sydney the first Sunday of each month. I paid eighty for it.
    21. inky inky, 6 years ago
      I have to say it again vetraio5 ..this is gorgeous I love looking at it!.....:-)
    22. Stillwater Stillwater, 6 years ago
      I know my mother has some Loetz thats valuable, that favrile stuff with the sterling overlay, but is it all very valuable? Or only the early pieces like this?
    23. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      I'd have a look at the auction sites. Quittenbaum, Christies, etc. as well as ebay for ideas about values ..... supply and demand are always the determining factors.
    24. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      you left out the most important factor Vetraio, Condition.. Color also matters what is it, the three c's.. Condition, Color and something else. Maybe Condition again? LOL
    25. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      True snowy! This one is damaged, but then I didn't care.
      Perhaps the other C is "cross-over"?
    26. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      for 80 bucks who cares right? I'd have shelled out 80 for it without thinking. :)
    27. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanls stillwater 'n mikielikesigns2 too!
    28. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks Vanessa!
    29. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Well how did you go at Vinnies?
    30. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks kulektor and purpledog too!
    31. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks Leah!
    32. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks epson233 and to you too ks85!
    33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks go to LisaL from Canada and to dlfd911, ks85, and to you too epson233!
      Thanks to all of you!
    34. kralik1928 kralik1928, 6 years ago
      Looks great, i have seen a cornucopia in a german museum (not Passau) that shows a very similar theme and technique. let me know if you need pic, best guess: Loetz Prochaska
    35. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks kralik1928!
    36. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      By the way Kralik28 I'd love to see another. Could I get that reference?
    37. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks petey!
    38. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks SEAN and betweentheLens!
    39. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 5 years ago
      OMG!!!!
    40. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks ho2cultcha and to you too MoonsoneL! Glad you like it!
    41. ozmarty ozmarty, 5 years ago
      Hi Vet me old cobba , just thought I'd thow a spanner in the works .........
      This could be by Harrach!
      on page 267 of the "New " Book ieFrom Neuwelt to Whole world by Jan Mergl.
      illustration 311 shows similar in this colour .
      will try to scan if I have time latter

    42. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Thanks Marty! Love to see it!
    43. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Just changed the Title, Mart!
    44. ozmarty ozmarty, 5 years ago
      I'm off to Qld tomorrow and should be out the door now will try to do it
    45. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      No problems Marty. Maybe some of the hounds will comment. I do not have the book! Enjoy the warmer climes!
    46. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks dlfd911!
    47. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Thanks again MSL!
    48. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 5 years ago
      Kevin, this one is COOL!!
    49. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Hi MSL!
      It looks like it has just been plucked out of the Mediterranean!
      A piece of Mother Nature's Art on the ocean floor.
      I think the construction of the foot is different to the Harrach versions.
    50. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 5 years ago
      Kevin, this is so natural and so really amazing to look at!!! Great score!! BTW I am learning to love a piece with it not being totally intact! If we wanted that..we should buy new!!!
    51. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Totally correct.


    52. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      I didn't buy it to sell it.
      There is really only a market for perfect pieces unless they are extraordinarily rare.
      But this has given me great pleasure: the money paid for it has been totally well spent.
    53. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 5 years ago
      Kevin, was it reasonable? I love my Blue Kralik from the SA for $2.99 with 2 broken feet ...its one of my nearest and dearest to me...XO
    54. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      It was no bargain I paid three figures.
    55. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      and it was a stunning 3 figures:)
    56. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 5 years ago
      Kevin, oh wow!!!! If I had the money I would have paid that for the vase too!!!! XOXOX
    57. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      I had sold some stuff and was all cashed up at the time.
      The money itself is not important.
      Money is just time ... and effort.
      A means to an end: Buying eye candy?
    58. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 5 years ago
      Kevin, that is what I am doing...selling my personal jewelry to fund my new found glass passion!!!! I need to go to BGAA (Bohemian Glass Aholics Anonymous)..since being on CW!!!!! I was getting over Antique Moonstones! SIGH :0
    59. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks DrFluffy and THOSCAHABA too!
    60. artislove artislove, 5 years ago
      are you sure you didnt scube this from the great barrier reef? nicely done sir you shook the loetz world!!!!lol
    61. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks artislove!
    62. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      Good Moring Kevin!!!
    63. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Evening SEAN, 8.20 pm Friday. Have repacked a lot of stuff today.
    64. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      Hello Keving it is 5:23 am here and im having my second cup of coffee :) You have repacked a lot of stuff.
    65. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      Kevin:) damn spell check. im going to have scott fix this sorry about the typo.
    66. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      Later on today kevin ill post the Bohemia crystal , the one I showed u:)
    67. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Good. Have you noticed the little Recent Activity pix at the top right?
    68. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      yes. I have :)
    69. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks Deanteaks, tombraider and smiata too!
    70. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks MANIKIN and PHIL too!
    71. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks WEIRDPUCKETT. I really appreciate your kind comments!
    72. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks JACK1989!
    73. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks SIGNAHOLIC!
    74. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks ALDO!
    75. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks BRATJDD!
    76. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks for the loves TOM31675!
    77. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks OLDBOOKS & SMIATA too!
    78. tom61375, 5 years ago
      This piece is all around awesome, and how you aquired it really makes it shine! =)
      Love it!
    79. tom61375, 5 years ago
      You're very welcome vetraio50! =)
    80. Aimathena Aimathena, 5 years ago
      Such a gorgeous piece. oh how I hope I don't get started on these stunning collectables. I'll bankrupt us. LoL
    81. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Hi AIMATHENA and thanks for the love. This one is pink too!
    82. Aimathena Aimathena, 5 years ago
      it is truly a WOW piece Kev
    83. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks TOM61375!
    84. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 5 years ago
      really beautiful piece! it reminds me of those handmade studio pieces w/ under the sea themes - made in early to mid nouveau period.
    85. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many t hanks COLORI and HO2CULTURE too!
    86. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks KERRY10456 'n VIOLETORANGE too!
    87. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks TOM!
    88. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks AGHCOLLECT!
    89. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks SMIATA!
    90. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE!
    91. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks TOM!
    92. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Just changed the photos on this one!
      After 3 years time for a change!
    93. SEAN68 SEAN68, 4 years ago
      these are beautiful photos Kevin!!!
    94. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks SEAN, GARY 'n TONINO too!
    95. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE!
    96. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks FREIHEIT!
    97. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks NITTYGRITTY'n MOON too!
    98. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks TED STRAUB!!!!
    99. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks KATZL & NORDICMAN !!!!!
    100. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks GLUECHIP !!!!!!!!!
    101. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks JULIE !!!!!!!!!!
    102. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks ROYCROFTBOOKSFROMME !!!!!!!!!!
    103. CollectiblesUnlimited CollectiblesUnlimited, 4 years ago
      That is a beautiful piece!
    104. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks COLLECTIBLESUNLIMITED & NORDICMAN !!!!!!!!!

      SEASON'S GREETINGS !!!!!!!
    105. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Oh wow! This is really awesome. I imagine this type is quite unique. I love the representation!
    106. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks SHAREURPASSION !!!!!!
    107. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks Dr. K. M. Hasselbach for the Pattern Number identification : "sea-shells 1.05, 1.06 PN=I/7008 1897."

      I have much to learn about early Loetz. I thank KAIROMALTE for the sage article here:
      http://loetz.com/identifying-loetz-glass/early-loetz

    108. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks LOETZDANCE !!!!!
    109. Deano Deano, 3 years ago
      Wicked Awesome!
    110. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks DEANO !!!!!
    111. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks FREIHEIT & EFESGIRL
    112. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks yet again ALFREDO !!!!!!
    113. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks VINTAGEFRAN !!!!!
    114. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks HO2CULTCHA !!!!!
    115. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks CAPERKID !!!!!!
    116. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks KIVATINITZ !!!!!!!!
    117. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks EFESGIRL !!!!!!!
    118. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks MELANIEJ !!!!!!
    119. antiquerose antiquerose, 3 years ago
      ~ ~ I loved it AGAIN ~ ~
    120. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Thanks so much ROSE !!!!!
    121. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks ALFREDO & KYRATANGO too !!!!!!
    122. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks FREIHEIT & MACDADDYRICO !!! !!! !!! !!!
    123. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks BLUEBONNET !!!!!!!
    124. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks AURA !!!!!!
    125. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks ANNAB !!!!!!
    126. inky inky, 3 years ago
      Merry Christmas a wonderful New Year vetraio!...xo
    127. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks INKY & GLUECHIP !!!!!!
    128. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks HO2CULTCHA !!!!
    129. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks NICEFICE !!!!!
    130. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks MARTIKA for that 80th Love !!!
    131. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks SPIRITBEAR & CELIENE too !!!!!

      GAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!
    132. SpiritBear SpiritBear, 3 years ago
      I saw it and about died. LOL.
    133. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Thanks Mate ... It's a special thing I believe !!!!
    134. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks ANNELANDERS & CELIENE !!!!!!
    135. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks SMIATA !!!!!
    136. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks BRUNSWICK !!!!!
    137. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks THOMAS, SCOTTVEZ & UTTERLYUNIQUE !!!!
    138. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks MIDNIGHT !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
    139. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Thanks ALFREDO !!!!

      Shock Horror !!!!

      LOL !!!
    140. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks NICEFICE, SPIRITBEAR, JSCOTTO & CELIENE !!!!!!
    141. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      It seems that both Harrach and Loetz did versions of these shell vases around 1897. Alfredo was generous in sending me images of the Harrach pieces and some text that clarifies the question of Harrach and Loetz:

      "The form and execution with a finely spun mesh were most probably inspired by very similar vases-shells produced from 1897 by the Johann Loetz Witwe glassworks in Klastersky Mlyn ..... Vases from Klastersky Mlyn differ in the optical ribbing of the conch and the more elaborate, more sculpturally formed foot with notches."

      If you look at the pictures above it is the notches in the foot that give it away .... PN=I/7008 1897 .

      The Harrach pieces have a pad foot.
    142. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks BETTYBOO !!! !!! !!!
    143. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      xMany thanks AUNTMOLLY !~ !!! !!! !!! ~!
    144. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE !!! !!! !!!
    145. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks BETTYBOO, JENNYN & ANTIQUEROSE too !!!! !!!!
    146. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks TONINO & DESTINYJENNIFER too !!! !!!! !!!
    147. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks for that love WINDWALKER !!!! !!!!! !!!!
    148. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks NOUVEAUDECO !!! !!!! !!!
    149. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks THOMAS & OROYOROYISTHATYOURHORSE !!! !!!! !!!
    150. buckethead buckethead, 2 years ago
      Amazing
    151. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks BUCKETHEAD !!!! ! !!!!
    152. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks DEEPSEAS !!! ! !!!
    153. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks MRSTYNDALL !!! ! !!!
    154. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks ROYCROFTBOOKSFROMME !!!!
    155. vetraio50 vetraio50, 2 years ago
      Many thanks VINTAGEFRAN !!!!
    156. artfoot artfoot, 10 months ago
      A whole new audience - you're going to top 100 loves with this one. A+
    157. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 months ago
      Many thanks ARTFOOT, SAMMYZ, MACART & BUCKETHEAD !!!!
    158. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 months ago
      Many thanks VINTAGEFRAN !!!
    159. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
      Many thanks TREY !!!!
    160. Trey Trey, 9 months ago
      Your welcome :) I don’t know how I missed this !!
    161. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
      It has been on CW now for 7 years now. It has a long history here !!!
    162. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
      Many thanks VINTAGEMISC !!!!!
    163. Trey Trey, 9 months ago
      Beautiful :)
    164. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
      Many thanks TREY !! !! !! !!
    165. dlpetersen, 6 months ago
      This is a truly beautiful piece.
    166. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
      Many thanks DLPETERSEN !!!!!!
    167. Justanovice Justanovice, 6 months ago
      I think this could snowball again!! Beautiful! :)
    168. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
      Many thanks JUSTANOVICE !,!,!,!

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