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I bought this beautiful vase in estate sale in Del Mar California. It's very heavy and I don't know if it's Japanese, Chinese or somewhere else. They were using it as a planter. Wondering about age too. The only thing that I know is that I love it. I will appreciate any help thanks.
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great shape and handles!! love the design!!
Your very welcome Porcelainlover!! and welcome to cw!!
Thank you, love this site.
me too!! does the piece just sit on that base, or is the base hollowed out on the inside? i think it just sits on it. kind of unusually thick/heavy base, no?
It just sits an the base. And yes is kind of unusual.
Somebody told me they were planters from Mexico?.
it doesn't look mexican to me. the clay is not the right color and it looks high-fired, which is very unusual in mexico. the form isn't right either.
it doesn't look mexican to me. the clay is not the right color and it looks high-fired, which is very unusual in mexico. the form isn't right either.
I got a comment saying it's Japanese earthenware probably 18th century or older that I appreciated a lot. But not completely sure about this one.
I collect Chinese jars of the Song and Yuan Dynasties. The form, glaze (with ash imperfections), small scroll handles, rim, unglazed base, and dark earthenware all resemble pieces from my collection. How large is this jar? Song jars tend to be very small. Yuan jars often larger. This one is definitely Asian, probably Chinese, and not Mexican. Recommend having it appraised by an Asian ceramics expert.
Thank you very much for your help. Is much appreciated. The vase is 9"H X 10" W. I had found another similar vase in Google that was 11th. Century. I was a little skeptical for the old age, but now that you mentioned I am getting happier. Thanks again.
It's definitely Chinese, no later than Yuan dynasty. The bottom looks like an piece from Liao/Jin era(same time as Southern Song Dynasty).
Glad to read Shrine's assessment. Is the condition as good as it looks in the photo? Any cracks or chips? Based on it's large size, age, and apparent excellent condition it certainly will have some value. Recommend that appraisal.
Thank you very much for all your help. Is very much appreciated. It has some hairlines at the inside bottom but don't go through the outside foot. And thank you for your recommendations I will have it appraised soon.
My pleasure to comment. A planter indeed! (Although I'm sure it looked very pretty with plants inside.) Glad you found it. All best wishes.
Thank you very much to sonjar and shrine for helping me solve the making of this beautiful vase. Thank you very much again. Your help is much appreciated.
To be honest, I don't recommend appraisal as it would cost you. This one is not much valued in Chinese market. I've bought a similar one (but with four rings/ears/handles) for US$200 odd in China around 2010. Songjar could be right as I am not much into Earthenware.
Good luck :)
Shrine has a very good point. Song and Yuan rustic, high-fired earthenware jars are not as collected/valued as finer vases or porcelains. They don't often show up in museum collections. And it can be difficult to find information in books, catalogs, printed materials about these type pieces. Probably created for humble storage purposes and never intended for display on a pedestal. Even so, there is beauty in the inherent craftsmanship and certainly private US collectors are buying. Porcelainlover, what intrigues me about your jar is that it has the simple, high-shouldered, rounded and unadorned shape with single-color glaze, but is much larger in size than others like it I've seen. But I'm just one small collector and I haven't seen everything. Perhaps, instead of appraisal at this time, you should watch Asian antique auctions for Song, Liao, Jin and Yuan era jars and get an idea for the market, to see if you think your piece warrants the price of appraisal.
Thank you very much for your comments, I will follow your advice. Thanks again.