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    Posted 4 years ago

    robin56
    (263 items)

    Some cups that came in some of my lots. Unsure if eapg, maker, age or style. Any info is welcomed. Cups are 2 in by 2.5 in.

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    1. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      looks like Duncan & Miller Glass #58 'Clover' c1905
    2. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      similar to Duncan & Miller, but this is likely Tiffin also:
      http://www.replacements.com/webquote/tifroyal.htm
    3. robin56 robin56, 4 years ago
      Handles are thicker on the tiffin ones. Is there any way I can tell?
    4. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      I can't find anything on possible original punch sets in the Clover pattern to compare. There's also the Indiana 'Duchess' pattern. Do you have a black light to compare the reaction of the cups to that of the bowl and under-plate?
    5. robin56 robin56, 4 years ago
      I'll see if i can get a black light to compare will post pucs when I can!
    6. robin56 robin56, 4 years ago
      Ok. I am stupid here what exactly I am I looking for?
    7. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      EAPG era glass was made using manganese for clarity, which was discontinued for a while at the time of WWI, and other additives were used. This is why EAPG will have a green/yellow glow when viewed with black light in a dark room. Much newer glass and lead crystal will simply reflect the purple color of the black light. This isn't a test of absolute certainty for old glass however, as some newer glass also began to contain manganese I later years. Manganese is also what causes this glass to turn purple when over exposed to UV rays.
    8. robin56 robin56, 4 years ago
      Ok. I exposed the cup to a black light and it came out as purple with some green/yellow. Cameta wouldn't focus so I couldn't get a picture.
    9. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      the green/yellow shows in the thick edges and patterns cuts best when turned in the light; It's really hard to photograph without a SLR where you can control shutter speed and manually focus.
    10. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      so all pieces had same response to the light?
    11. robin56 robin56, 4 years ago
      Yes. All showed purpke with the green yellow outlining it.
    12. TallCakes TallCakes, 4 years ago
      ok, that's consistent with old glass; but is there any wear consistent with age... still thinking this is likely Tiffin 'Royal' but not 100% certain.
    13. robin56 robin56, 4 years ago
      Ok. Checked for wear. It does show some wear as well as what appears to be sand or some other material in the glass.

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