Posted 7 years ago
ho2cultcha
(5042 items)
The colors really clash, but the porcelain is really beautiful - the butterflies and colors are really special. no signature on the pottery, but the laquer box - which looks Japanese to me - has an old Gump's label. a bit of a mystery to me! what do you think? i found this at Goodwill today - good evening thrifting!
A nice quality piece! I think Gumps retailed asian items, as well as jewelry too.
Agree with you the box seems Japanese, but the dishes combo rather Chinese.
Yes! They gathered asian pieces and antiques porcelain to sell:
http://m.gumps.com/about-us
The only ones I found on the web are made by Chikaramachi, and those sets carry backstamps.
who is Chikaramachi? Gump's was at this location from 1910-1939, so i think we can say it was put together sometime between those dates. they sold antique Chinese stuff, and they were known for putting things together, so it may be from before then.
268 Post is their old address.
LOL - I should read other posts first. I did a whole thing on Gump's once. I LOVE finding old Gump's stuff.
http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturyjapan.shtml
Chikaramachi branch factory of Noritake
Chikaramachi, Made In Japan. In use on porcelain made at the Noritake factory, Chikaramachi branch, during 1928-1946. Mark occurs in black and red. Porcelain intended for the United Kingdom market uses "Foreign" instead of Made in Japan. Same factory also used a mark with a crown inside a wreath. After the Noritake Morimura Gumi period that ended 1946, the factory changed name to Hinode Shokai.
That is also the old logo. My guess, probably 1920's. PRE deco period.
"With the beginning of a new century, Solomon Gump handed over the reins to his son, Abraham Livingston. Soon thereafter, the San Francisco earthquake of 1906 forced A.L., as he was known, to rebuild and restock the store. He looked to the Far East for new inspiration, sending buyers to Japan and China to find exotic rugs, porcelain, silks, bronzes and jade."
http://www.gumps.com/about-us/our-history
thank you Efes and Celiene!! Efes - why do you think the porcelain is Japanese and not Chinese? i've never seen Japanese w/ this kind of design before.
Try the Facebook ID group.
Looking closer at the logo -its A Gump's. Abe Gump was president in 1918- through at least 1922 at 268 Post St.
Wow Celiene! great detective work! over on the fb chinese collectors site, they had never seen anything like these colors before and were telling me that this was the 2nd half of the 20th century and 'no way' 20s/30s. i disagreed w/ them completely. gosh they can be know-it-alls sometimes!
UNLESS someone got REALLY lucky and found the box that fits it, and these are married pieces!
that could be, but i had the feeling when i first saw them that these are much older than they appear to be. and the wear is consistent with age.
wow! thanks rene! i was told by a couple people that they thought they were Japanese.
you can call it wat you want , you even may think that a mocca rim is a gilt rim , but this is excellent stuff
Gumps' Sumptuous Fall Catalogue
https://catalog.gumps.com/gumps-fall-catalog-2021-d2/page/1