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Glassfever's loves37 of 109Huge Loetz Creta Papillon Tulip Vase, PN I-7981/14", ca. 1899WMF Myra Form Nr. J.304 with original retail store label, ca. 1935
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    Posted 4 years ago

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    A few weeks ago, this vase showed up on eBay, and I was fortunate enough to get it. It was made by Thomas Webb and is a rare excample of his "Bronze" glass. I thought it would make a nice compare and contrast piece for my Loetz PG 377.

    It dates from around the late 1870's to early 1880's, and the decor was nicknamed the"brains" pattern for obvious reasons.

    The finish was created from Webb's experimentation with recreating the iridescent finish we find on excavated Roman Glass, which show the signs of time being buried in the earth and reacting to natural chemicals such as iron oxide. The base colour is a deep green, and the iridescent blues, purples and green colours were created by a complex chemical formulation.

    The process called for the use of a closed muffle or chamber where the fumes from the evaporation of tin and other metallic salts permanently attached to the surface of the glass producing a rainbow of iridescent blues, purples and green colours.

    The last pic shows a side-by-side comparison with my Crete PG 377. As always thanks for looking!

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    1. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 4 years ago
      I love the journey my eyes take while looking at picture #4.
    2. welzebub, 4 years ago
      Great pieces.... and a great comparison.... Every once in a while you will see a Webb piece being offered on ebay as a PG377 Loetz.
    3. scottvez scottvez, 4 years ago
      BEAUTIFUL Glass-- thanks for sharing and educating!

    4. Caperkid, 4 years ago
      Lol I'm watching antique road show and they Barca Webb vase. Just wonderful craftsmanship. The vase was appraised at 1500 in 2002. Never heard of the maker before.
    5. Caperkid, 4 years ago
      Spell check hmm
    6. Wow22, 4 years ago
      Excellent comparison. Very helpful - thanks!
    7. racer4four racer4four, 4 years ago
      Sigh, glass porn......
    8. mikelv85 mikelv85, 4 years ago
      Wonderful piece Rick ! :)
    9. jscott0363 jscott0363, 4 years ago
      That's incredibly beautiful!! Wonderful history of this piece.
    10. billretirecoll billretirecoll, 4 years ago
      Wow! Again Rick, another beauty! If I had seen this piece of glass, I would have thought it to be contemporary. I never would have thought it was 140 years old, and trying to copy the look of glass, 1000's of years old!
      It always amazes me, to see the museum quality pieces that you get, and then, to photograph them, with that same quality! :^D
      Just super Rick, thank you so much, for showing, for us! :^)
    11. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 4 years ago
      Lovely pieces!! I had never heard of a brains vase, but I see why they call it that ;)
    12. Mac63 Mac63, 4 years ago
      Nice to see you got this piece Rick...I tried. Great pics.
    13. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Thank you for the positive comments Bill, Craig, Scottvez, Roy, Wow22, Karen, Mike, Scott, Billretire, Mrs T and Mac, and thanks for the love Swfin, Aura, Adele, Gary, Deb, Eza, Jean, Jim, Ivonne, Fort, Lace, Thomas, Bucket and Moonhill, I appreciate all you guys!

      @ Bill... Thanks Bill that's my favorite pic also :)

      @ Craig... I can understand why the two could be confused as they're so similar. I'm sure there must be some Webb pieces out there that the owners believe are PG377.

      @ Roy... I'd love to see that Antiques Road Show episode... do you know where they were visiting?

      @ Wow... I agree, I think it makes a great comparison piece for the Loetz.

      @ Karen.... Glass porn? I'm blushing lol!

      @ Mike... Thanks, I'm glad you like it!

      @ Scott... I love reading about the history of a particular piece or process... I just think it adds so much more to the appreciation and enjoyment of collecting :)

      @ Billretire... Thanks so much for the great comment! Sometimes, based on the fine condition, I find it hard to believe that I'm actually holding an antique piece of glass rather than a contemporary one.

      @ Mrs T... Actually, I've always heard the "brains" moniker applied to the Loetz PG377, but while doing research for this piece, I found that the same name applies.

      @ Mac... Thanks Mac, I was thrilled to have gotten it! Also, I'm glad you like the pics :)

    14. Caperkid, 4 years ago
      South Carolina I believe Rick.
    15. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Thanks Roy. I have the latest ones saved, but I didn't have that one.
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      FABULOUS, RICK !!!!
    17. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Thanks so much Kevin, I'm glad you like it :)
    18. antiquerose antiquerose, 4 years ago
      A jaw dropper ......Wow, that is so very Stunning. Pics are beautiful as ever

    19. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Thanks for the great comments Gary : ) You can keep the brain lol

      Thank you Rose... I'm thrilled to have an example of each :)
    20. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Thanks to all of you guys for the loves!
    21. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Great post, very informative to say the least. And although I get the comparison of "brains", I just don't get why they would call it that! It just seems funny to me. I do love the vase...the name? Not so much. And it looks like the same person made both of them. Love, love your new photo!!! That's absolutely very cool! xoxo
    22. Caperkid, 4 years ago
      Hey Rick those Victorian houses most were made by Protestants from the Upper Rhine or GermanyReigion. The Fortress In Halifax was completed and this was one of the first settlements outside the Fortress with the promised land to new settlers. They have Dutch look as well. The window out crops or Lunenburg bump was a sign of wealth along with stained glass around the doors.
    23. inky inky, 4 years ago
      Hi Rick..Don't know how I missed this..but then again I'm not on as often as I often as I was..sorry!...:-/..
      I read your comment on Phil's Loetz cut glass post so thought you might find this interesting...would have sent it you via email but I have lost your email address..beware! will give you a new hunting area..they are wonderful..:-)

    24. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Great article Penny... such beautiful pieces! One question though… why tempt me with something new? Lol Thanks : )
    25. studioartglass, 3 years ago
      Been getting an education on Webb's Bronze Brains vases. I was lucky enough to find one of these recently 4in tall by 4 3/4 wide. Does anyone have any further info on value? Thanks Patrick
    26. Ka-ching, 2 years ago pleased for you.... I have a paperweight which has similarities.. I posted it under Webb “Brain” to see if anyone could confirm my thought. It looks too irregular to be Royal would be glad for your opinion

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