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    Posted 6 months ago

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    This piece of Czech decorative glass was an unusual yellow striped peloton on red spatter bowl or compote and set on a big black glass pedestal foot. Considered as Ruckl by me and with the small white oval mark inside MADE IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA.

    I kept this broken glass item, because the interesting fabrication is substantial, especially the thickness of the bottom of the bowl, where you can see the four layers of glass a quarter of an inch wide or close to a centimetre.

    The black glass pedestal survived somehow. I have mentioned an idea I had several years ago, and I am still pondering it, the advanced preparation production of finials, pedestal, handles in black molded glass, to be applied to hot glass when necessary. This view was not agreed at all with at the time, yet I still think it has merit. In fact, clear glass pontils, feet and handles might also have been made ahead of time either by another glasswork or by the larger producers.

    Why would I come up with such an observation, because if your look closely at black glass finials on the lid of a box by the same company, it has the exact same shape, which seems an added time consuming labor for pieces that are hand tooled with tiny variations.


    1. Bambus1920 Bambus1920, 6 months ago
      Could you illustrate the last paragraph with some actual examples ?
    2. artfoot artfoot, 6 months ago
      Since I had no part in any previous disagreement you may have had over this idea I thought I would add that I tend to agree with you about the bases. It is pretty obvious that the pedestal and disc feet are formed by a totally different process than the blown pieces they are attached to - quite possibly a mechanical process. It would certainly make assembly easier if the parts are handy.
    3. Newfld Newfld, 6 months ago
      I am so sorry you have lost beautiful treasured glass pieces Lisa, it is truly heartbreaking I have done so myself, and I admire your seeing the bright side and letting us all learn from it - thank you for this post
    4. truthordare truthordare, 6 months ago
      This was on another post quite a while back, and not even part of the glass topic, just an aside from me. Since the Czechs were frugal in their fabrications due to their slim profit margin, I felt my idea had some merit.

      I might do a post about it, with just finials, and pedestals, Kralik and their tango (one color & black) compotes are good examples.
      I own one, orange and black, they were made in many variations of colors on inside and outside surfaces with black glass pedestal base.

      Thank you, I was upset, this happens with rare pieces, of course. I did appreciate having a close-up look at the cut layers of the glass.
    5. Ivonne Ivonne, 6 months ago
      I'm sorry your lost,Lisa
    6. Brunswick Brunswick, 6 months ago
      The love is for you..not for what occurred. With records, I must be careful as well. So many do not have the correct album in the cover!!

    7. truthordare truthordare, 6 months ago
      Thomas, how sneaky and upsetting. Some people will do and say anything to make a buck. We have a collection here of old 1940s records, the old boy love big band music and he played the clarinet. Artie Shaw was his favorite.

      Much before your time. I was just thinking how our popular music, made such an effect mid to late 2oth century. We were lucky to live and grow older with that in the background. Thanks Thomas.
    8. Brunswick Brunswick, 6 months ago
      Lisa, Artie Shaw was a true musician. His compositions will continue to live on! I do have a few! So much influence did Big Band and Jazz have on what we hear today and alot of rhythm and blues!! Sadly, today, it is hard to find a musician that actually plays anything.

    9. artfoot artfoot, 6 months ago
      After a little review of the processes, it is unlikely that there is a stock pile of knobs and feet waiting for assembly. I've had to re-think this notion. Turns out that hot glass does not act like glue and the parts will only fuse if both are near the same temperature. Trying to join hot to cold results in internal fracturing - not a desirable result. It may not be assembly line efficient but probably more likely that knobs, feet, and pedestals are made and joined concurrently.
    10. truthordare truthordare, 6 months ago
      That was the opinion I heard before about an assembly of previously made glass parts. The thing is, much was applied to the hot glass, once cooled to a degree, and the addition was also of the same temperature.

      There are pieces that had 3 or 4 applications at the same temperature, then put in a long process of cooling, so that the glass would not fracture or break. These heating and reheating glass pieces were not unusual, and the master glass craftsman knew how to achieve this.

      It is an idea, based on the exact replica of the molded finials and pedestals, in the same shape, size and color. Impossible? Not practical? Maybe yes maybe no. We weren't there....
    11. Roycroftbooksfromme1 Roycroftbooksfromme1, 6 months ago
      that the profile pic
    12. truthordare truthordare, 6 months ago
      Thank you CW and the members who participated in this post.

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