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julius0019's items4 of 24Antique Pre Doulton Pinder Bourne 15" x 9" Vase Pair Unidentified PatternANTIQUE BUDDHA PENDANT MYSTERY???
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    Posted 3 years ago

    julius0019
    (24 items)

    I believe this to be an early Royal Crown Derby Mark, but correct me if I am wrong, as it is slightly different to others that I have seen. It is outstanding, with skilled hand painted design, of bird and bee in foliage. It measures at approx 10" high by 7" at widest. Please help me in identification of this mark and the corresponding stamped and impressed numerals.

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    1. maryh1956 maryh1956, 3 years ago
      Don’t think this is Royal Crown Derby. here is a link to their early marks
      https://antique-marks.com/derby-marks.html
    2. maryh1956 maryh1956, 3 years ago
      I think it may be German, looks like there is aan L W on either side of the "curly bits"
      Ludwig Vessel
    3. maryh1956 maryh1956, 3 years ago
      Here is a link to the marks, looks like the one around 1875
      https://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/northrhine/poppelsdorf-01/index.php
    4. maryh1956 maryh1956, 3 years ago
      There are many fakes coming from China, so it may be worth your whlle having it checked out by a professional. If you have a museum nearby, which has a ceramics or porcelain section, you could check there first
    5. julius0019, 3 years ago
      Thank you so much, maryh1956 for sharing your time and knowledge so selflessly.
    6. truthordare truthordare, 1 year ago
      Gorgeous design, this is a really beautiful piece. Kovel's book says Poppelsdorf, Germany.1825 porcelain.
    7. truthordare truthordare, 1 year ago
      Its been difficult to find another porcelain piece with the exact same mark as your post, this maker had many hallmarks over a long period. I found this page which gives you lots of information, and many mark examples.
      https://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/northrhine/poppelsdorf-01/index.php
    8. truthordare truthordare, 1 year ago
      If you read all the texts and links provided here, and look at the item's mark there is definitely a crown, and there is definitely a German mark, with the initials L and W on each side, for the designer of that time period, Ludwig Wessel, that another CW member had already identified.
      Exports of German porcelain was being done during the late 18th century, if Meissen is one example.
    9. truthordare truthordare, 1 year ago
      comment 8, by yop: "no crown'....... you did say it - write it.

      Addendum, I will not toss the book or any reference book, as they all contain valuable information, and no reference material is 100% correct be it a database or books.

      The experts collectors and curators advice was get as many books as you can on the subject, that was before the internet 1990s, and you will have a better chance of a good useful reference library.

    10. truthordare truthordare, 1 year ago
      https://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/northrhine/poppelsdorf-01/poppelsdorf-01-05.jpg

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