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    Posted 9 months ago

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    I think this is a McCoy cranberry red color, but not the pattern.
    Roseville seems to be the pinecone potter!
    Can anyone out there help me?

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    1. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 9 months ago
      The most obvious question is: Is it marked??
    2. oldbonz, 9 months ago
      Hi fhrjr2

      the last photo shows the bottom of the piece: no mark.
      Nothing on the inside either, as unlikely as that might be.
      Somewhere along the line I thought I read that some McCoy is not marked.
      The color vs. pattern is vexing.
      Thanks for your response
    3. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 9 months ago
      I'm not sure where you would have read that but McCoy pottery was always marked since the day they started in 1899. It wasn't marked McCoy at that time but it was certainly marked. The originals were marked with the line of production like Mt. Pelee, sometime between 1904 and 1910 the McCoy name showed up on their work. Even after the fire in 1903 destroyed most of their warehouse supplies everything was marked when production began again. I once had a great deal of McCoy and therefore did oodles of research but only research I could verify. I believe you may have read some inaccurate information posted by someone grasping at straws in hopes of having, " The real McCoy".
    4. oldbonz, 9 months ago
      once again, thanks for that info.
      Any ideas on what this piece could be?
      I've seen similar shapes in McCoy and definitely the color.
      What do you think?
    5. fhrjr2 fhrjr2, 9 months ago
      I think if anything it might possibly be Bursch-McCoy or later. That would be almost impossible to substantiate but when the name changed a few pieces were released unmarked. It could also be a Nelson McCoy which was unmarked and again next to impossible to substantiate and neither the Bursch or the Nelson is an actual McCoy. Nelson McCoy was marked with an N-M logo. Later down the road the company changed hands yet again. The point being, an unmarked piece is nothing but an unmarked piece that may have come from anywhere. McCoy has seen a good share of fakes made and even marked with their logo which is pretty easy to tell. I would think you have a great deal of research to do before you can even begin to verify this as being related to McCoy. I certainly wish you well but at the same time I am glad it isn't me trying to prove this is a McCoy.

      Also you can find the original McCoy colors and mixtures to make them online.

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