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    Posted 9 months ago

    kairomalte
    (55 items)

    These three thickly enameled Loetz vases exhibit no 'Dek Numbers', therefore they might have been décorated not by Loetz itself, but by some Bohemian refinery using Loetz blanks. The first vase was made in 1899 for Max Emanuel, London PN=346/714-716 showing an eight-fold repeated orchid motiv. For the second vase, with four-fold lobed M-crimped rim, manufactured in the very same spreading colour, possibly 'Camelien Rot', I didn't find it's PN. The last vase was made in 'Magenta' red, it's PN is unknown, too. All three vases show a fine matte iridescense. The vases stand H=15 D=15 cm, H=12.5 D=15 and finally H=21 D=9 cm.

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    1. MALKEY MALKEY, 9 months ago
      fabilus pieces in a roaring colour just stunning decor
      first class kai
      all the very best malkey
      1412
    2. SteveS SteveS, 9 months ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia?wprov=sfti1
    3. kairomalte, 9 months ago
      Hi Steve,
      In an article published in the German newspaper 'Zentralblatt' 1894 page 481 about Loetz at the World Expo, Chicago it is written ...'Camelienroth, ein neues rothes mit Gold gefaerbtes Glas, durchscheinend, mit reinem Reliefdecor ...' which translates as 'Camelia-red', a new red coloured glass using Gold, transparent, decorated by thick enamel … Of course Loetz had the wonderful Camelia flower in mind, when naming this colour. In this article there is a reference to Loetz glasses 'Persica' and 'Pavonia', too.
    4. SteveS SteveS, 9 months ago
      Hi Kai ... was an interesting link ... and I was in a hurry after exploring it ...
      I have always thought of Camelia’s as shades of pink .. but suppose that would be camelia rosa ... hence ...
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/213990-opal-in-essence
      ... which are in Dek I/4 as previously documented (and since confirmed by Marty’s
      piece) ... the marked I/200”s all appear to have a stylised “CC” in the decoration ... think Roman Numerals ... not sure if it was an anniversary or just a milestone in terms of decoration ! ... do think that Roman Numerals were generally used to reference dates by Loetz as well as the whole publishing industry in the 19th and early 20th century ... (open any old book ... MLCCCDXXXVII ...)
      Do you have a link to the 1894 article at all ... that does sound interesting !
    5. SteveS SteveS, 9 months ago
      ... which makes the “Pavonia” (top right) a I/4 btw ... :-)
      https://www.loetz.com/decors-a-z/dek/dekor-dek-enter-here/dek-i-200
    6. kairomalte, 9 months ago
      Hi Steve,
      thank you for your contributions, now, the article mentioned is printed together with all historical articles about Loetz the author Waltraud Neuwirth put together in her reference book about Loetz 'Loetz Austria 1900' published by Selbstverlag Dr. Waltraud Neuwirth Wien, 1986. I don't think that there is any link to any of those articles she collected. For doing research on Loetz this book is highly recomended. What appears to you as being stylized CC in the Dek=I/200 is actually just a part of the 'Rococo' scrollworks. The Dek numbers themselves do not refer to any date, but form a continuously increasing numbering scheme used as reference in the lost Loetz 'Décor Book'.
    7. SteveS SteveS, 9 months ago
      Have 2 copies of each volume somewhere but not sure I trust my translation ... and I don't think the patents and articles were translated from memory ...
      Perhaps if you could find a marked example of the "I/200" Dek without the flaming back to back "CC" I could be convinced ...
      Not sure if Ales / You / I got the "Pavonia" ... suspect it is here ... Fairly certain it did not have a "I/200" mark on the base ...
      ... and I certainly do have the orange / yellow and the pink opals with the "I/4" mark ...
    8. renedijkstra, 8 months ago
      i got my doubts about vase, with four-fold lobed M-crimped rim, but i am playing mid stakes poker limit badugi , so you have to do it on your own, you manage , you are seasoned

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