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I've searched and searched and yet have I found out what these are exactly, so any info helps, please and thank you.
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Posted 5 years ago
g5gbaby89
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I've searched and searched and yet have I found out what these are exactly, so any info helps, please and thank you.
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Egyptian style jewelry???
I have been meaning to add a few bits of info. I agree that figure #3 is Hathor, identified by her headdress. That is great info from always-thorough Keramikos! I love it!!
Hathor, sky goddess, crossed boundaries between worlds, helping deceased souls in transition to the afterlife.
I believe figure #1 in that trio is Horus, Falcon-headed god who was the consort of Hathor. Horus was believed to traverse the sky between the sun and moon: I think the crescent shaped cut-outs on the border of this item are crescent moons, the circle itself may represent the sun or the earth.
I believe figure #2 is Osiris, god of the dead, the underworld and resurrection.
The wavy lines represent water (maybe the Nile). Tombs of important people usually contained boats to carry the dead to the afterlife, so water is an important feature in this item. The upper parts of the bodies of the 3 figures are above the water, in the sky or afterlife. At the feet of the 3 figures, it looks like solid ground; the underworld would be below.
So, in a nutshell, I believe your item depicts all important gods and aspects of transitioning from this world to the afterlife in ancient Egyptian belief.
Then, on to your item in picture #2:
I'm going to venture that the figure depicted is that of Hatshepsut (a real woman, not a god/goddess), a female pharaoh who came to the throne in 1478BC.
Here's why I think it is her: She has an obvious female body (breast obvious and body contour). She is dressed in the traditional ankle length tight gown of a woman.
Even though that identifies her as a woman, it gets a bit odd that she is wearing the striped headdress and cobra symbol of a king.
Additionally, she is wearing the false beard of a man.
She has her arms crossed, right over left, and holding the staff and flail in the manner of a pharaoh.
She was referred to with both male and female pronouns and even though she portrayed herself as male to claim the role of pharaoh, she was also known as a queen. Those crazy Ancient Egyptians!! The double-genders, power grabbing, and what we call incest was totally the norm among the ruling class aiming to keep the bloodline pure!
It looks like she is being attended to by a woman on each side of her.... that indicates her/his noble stature.
Hatshepsut built an enormous mortuary temple (on the must-see list of every Egyptian tourist) but a sarcophagus prepared for her was found empty. A mummy found without a coffin or sarcophagus was found (by Howard Carter, I think) and later identified as the remains of Hatshepsut by the fact of the remains having a certain tooth missing while that very tooth was found in a canopic jar identified as belonging to Hatshepsut.
So that's a long way of identifying who is represented in your 2 pendants. I think they may have been items available for purchase by tourists.
Thanks for posting....Egyptian history is always interesting reading!
- interjection
1. cricky -- a mild oath of surprise
Gillian, please explain the what you are interjecting there: what do you mean by “1. crikey—a mild oath of surprise “?
I’m trying to read some nice connotation into it but I’m afraid I’m just imagining the opposite.
Thanks for that definition but it’s not the definition of crikey that puts me into a quandary - I watched enough Steve Erwin/crocodile hunter and his family tv show to get that - I just didn’t see what was meant by “interjecting” it into my response about the item and then defining crikey for me.
Was “1. Crikey.....” referring to my definition of figure #1?
Was there something wrong with what I wrote?
I just don’t see at what part of my answer the interjection of crikey and crikey’s definition is aimed.
Why would anyone essentially say “Christ kill me” after reading my explanation of the figures depicted in the item?
You gave a lengthy explanation of one of the figures and I merely added info on the rest of them.
Crikey!!!!
Keramikos, I was not questioning what you said, I understood what you meant! I had even waited a while to make sure you had said all you wanted to about the item before I chimed in on it. So, please don’t think you offended.
I have a few books on Ancient Egypt with lots of pictures for reference/comparison. :^)
Those sewing machine mysteries do come up quite a lot....you’ve come to the rescue quite a lot...good job!
I hope that grade school story skipped over her being the wife of her half brother! We wouldn’t want to get that stuff started again....Lol....
Yes, so much info is available and can be much quicker to come if only one takes a moment to look. Your are very nice to provide the answers!
So much much intermarrying, but that was their norm....seems so bizarre to us! Retch. :^[
The intermarrying of the royal families in Egypt was primarily done to maintain Dynastic control of power..... Kept it in the "family" so to speak.
There is an old adage....... Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.....
With that in mind, and agreeing completely with the repulsive nature of incest, marrying your first cousin, although not practiced widely, is perfectly legal in 19 states in the US with no restrictions.
Keramikos, as an RN dealing with newborns for 45 years, I saw some pretty awful defects, sometimes the products of consanguineous relationships. But people are good at denying those relationships, so some defects probably escape being identified as to the true cause.
When the specialists checked out the babies and interviewed the parents, there were always in depth questions related to relationships of the family, even going back 2-3 generations.
And, Mother Nature does have a way of weeding out those effected but some pitiful ones slip by her.
Keramikos, good question.