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Loetz - Gelbgrün Ciselé - PN II-492

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austrohungaro's loves18 of 3320Fenton 3013 Hanging Hearts Hanging Vine Off Hand Vase ca. 1925-26Loetz - Tango
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    Posted 2 years ago

    larksel
    (115 items)

    This is my Gelbgrün (yelow green) Ciselé. PN II-492, approx. 1900, height 8.5 cm - 6.5 cm at widest point. Shape corresponds (except for the number of handles) to the shape of the vase, see: https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/272418-opal-banded-vase-to-compare-with-warren?in=442-activity
    The third and fourth photos is a vase in PASK Klatovy. In my opinion, this is a larger version of this shape.
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    After welzebub contribution correct: it is only a similar shape.

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    1. welzebub, 2 years ago
      I am of the opinion that the museum example is a similar, and larger vase, but I do not believe that it is a larger version of the shape. The ratios of height to width etc are not the same on the two shapes.

      If one draws a circle that is 4 inches in diameter and a circle that is 8 inches in diameter, then you have different sizes of the same shape.

      If on another hand, you draw a circle that is 4 inches in diameter, and then you draw an oval that is eight inches tall and 6 inches across it's waist, you then have two similar shapes, but not different sizes of the same shape.

      These same differences apply with complex shapes as well as simplistic shapes like the examples I used.

      If one looks at the first two images in the linked post below, the first image shows a shape of vase in a 9.5 and 6.25 inch size. The second image shows the vase in a 7.5 inch size. In these examples, the ratios such as height to width, base diameter to rim diameter etc remain the same with a changing height (size). The examples in the PASK and in image 1, are possibly the same "family" of shapes, but not the same shape in different sizes.

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/145214-franz-welz-klostergrab--a-distinctive-s
    2. larksel larksel, 2 years ago
      I agree. It is only similar shape.

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