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    Posted 2 months ago

    Aly
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    This is so so beautiful but extremely damaged and glued back together.

    If anyone knows anything about the D would be grateful or even the different presumably Italian markings - thank you

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    1. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Aly, Beautiful.

      I don't know about the "D," but "Herculaneum," as you probably already know, was an ancient city destroyed by an epic eruption of Mount Vesuvius.

      Obviously, this is not an artifact from ancient Herculaneum, but possibly something made for the tourist trade. That doesn't necessarily mean it's new, because tourists have been flocking to Herculaneum for a long time.

      This is merely a relative anecdote, but (in)famous poet Lord Byron defaced the temple of Poseidon at Sounion by carving his name in the base.

      I suppose the "D" could stand for "Diana" (Roman goddess of wild animals and the hunt).
    2. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      OK, I get it now:

      *snip*

      The Herculaneum Pottery was based in Toxteth, Liverpool, England. between 1793/94 and 1841.

      *snip*

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herculaneum_Pottery
    3. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Hmmm, these two have similar shapes:

      *snip*

      Rare Herculaneum Liverpool Pottery Relief Moulded Stoneware Jug c.1800

      *snip*
      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/512354895087965178/

      *snip*

      Nelson Commemorative Jug. Herculaneum Pottery, c. 1800. Rare.

      *snip*

      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/226517056237815352/
    4. Aly, 2 months ago
      Thank you so much - how interesting if I was over 200 years old I reckon I might need some gluing.

    5. renedijkstra, 2 months ago
      this is what they call one of the Dutch Shapes Liverpool pottery 1806-1807
      i prefer to abstain for appraisal , because i am a gentile guy
    6. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Aly, You're welcome, but I'm not too sure about the provenance, as I know next to nothing about Herculaneum Pottery. Hey, I didn't even know the company existed before today. >8-0

      Per Peter Hyland, author of "The Herculaneum Pottery: Liverpool's Forgotten Glory," most Herculaneum Pottery makers marks were impressed, rather than stamped:

      https://books.google.com/books?id=s8-QwwOA7EEC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_book_other_versions#v=onepage&q&f=false

      Indeed, that's what I saw online, impressed Herculaneum Pottery factory marks. I couldn't find another sample with just the name "Herculaneum" stamped rather than impressed.

      That doesn't mean yours isn't genuine, just that I couldn't find another example of that style of mark, and pages 231-234 of Hyland's book (which contain pictures of HP factory marks weren't included in today's Google Books preview.

      (Past experience with Google Books teaches me that if one searches again and again over a period of days, different pages become available. };-) )

      renedijkstra, "Dutch Shapes Liverpool pottery 1806-1807," eh? Interesting.
    7. renedijkstra, 2 months ago
      no it was joke bad humor, the didnot stamp pottery in 1800
    8. Aly, 2 months ago
      It seems impressed rather than a stamp .

      It may just be a forgery can’t imagine many survive if they were made 213 years ago.

      It’s quite an exciting piece despite its damage and for a £1.00 I’m happy with using it for flowers .

    9. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Aly, OK, if the factory mark is impressed, then that's right in line with the norm for Herculaneum Pottery.

      FYI, I have no idea whether forgeries are a 'thing' with HP.

      I'd be careful using it for flowers. That is, I don't know if you want to put water in it.

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