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    Posted 2 years ago

    Casean
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    Before you start with “those are reproduced” I happen to know that they are not. My dad was wiring an old knob-and-tube house back in the early 70’s and he found these, plus 4 others, wrapped in cheesecloth in the wall. The homeowner paid part of his fee with these (Dad got a lot of antiques this way, much to my Mom’s disapproval... can’t pay the electric bill with a 1918 refrigerator) He put them in a frame and they have been on our fireplace mantle at least since I was 4... and I am 46. I have a picture to prove it.

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    1950's~UNITED STATES DEPUTY MARSHAL~OBSOLETE~AUTHENTIC IRVINE & JACHENS BADGE~
    1950's~UNITED STATES DEPUTY MARSHAL...
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    1930's~UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD~POLICE INSPECTOR~OBSOLETE~AUTHENTIC RAILWAY BADGE~
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    1930's~CALIFORNIA STATE PAROLE OFFICER~OBSOLETE~AUTHENTIC LAW ENFORCEMENT BADGE~
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    vintage~UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD~SPECIAL AGENT~OBSOLETE~RARE RAILWAY POLICE BADGE~
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    1950's~UNITED STATES DEPUTY MARSHAL~OBSOLETE~AUTHENTIC IRVINE & JACHENS BADGE~
    1950's~UNITED STATES DEPUTY MARSHAL...
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    1. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
      Sorry but these have all of the indications of reproductions: same star pattern and glob pin solder with poorly constructed pin back.

      These type of reproductions were popular in the 1960s-- about the time that the fantasy belt buckles were first made.

      scott
    2. Casean, 2 years ago
      So how does one authenticate? Why would someone wrap these in cheesecloth and hide them inside a wall?
    3. flashlarue flashlarue, 2 years ago
      Metal detecting I have found fake Civil War items buried in the ground where someone had been trying to age them. I agree these look to be reproductions.
    4. scottvez scottvez, 2 years ago
      I can't speak to the why-- but I will say that I have heard the same story several times myself in relation to other items.

      Research/ recognized expert opinions are the usual avenues to authenticate items.

      A quick search online shows many other examples:
      https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS703US703&q=abilene+kansas+deputy+marshal+badges&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQ6MC9pfLnAhX6CjQIHW54AusQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1366&bih=657

      Including one on CW:
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/15422-antique-vintage-very-old-no-remake-us

      scott

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