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    Posted 15 days ago

    truthordare
    (294 items)

    The second basket was from the same seller, and also happened to be advertised AFTER October 1929, the Day on Wall Street, New York, the melt down of the stock exchange.

    As the other basket it was only shown once, as opposed to other better known shapes and decors that have been identified for years. In this instance, I think it is also Kralik, in their green orange and yellow spatter on clear glass casing.

    I don't care if you disagree with me, wont be the first time I am out of step with a group of Czech glass collectors here on CW, this is the beauty of this site, we are entitled to our own ideas and voice them.

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    1. charcoal charcoal, 14 days ago
      Here's a CW posting explains how Riedel sold supplies to the whole glass industry, not just Welz.

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/265578-josef-riedel-glasfabrik--colors-for-the
    2. charcoal charcoal, 14 days ago
      I doubt it is documented that Welz received preferred pricing on supplies from Riedel. The Kralik and Welz families were closely related too, if you remember. Gottlob Kralik & Klara Welz were married in 1903. Welz's diverse use of colors, as you say, are all colors available to numerous manufacturers through Riedel, and others.
    3. charcoal charcoal, 14 days ago
      It seems that you make claims about glass attributions in this forum that are not supportable too!
    4. truthordare truthordare, 14 days ago
      Thanks Charcoal for the added info, thank you CW members for your support. Much appreciated.
    5. charcoal charcoal, 14 days ago
      Comment #2 was in reply to Welzebubs unsupportable claim that Welz received preferred pricing on colored glass supplies from Riedel, therefore Welz made far more colored glass than Kralik and others.
    6. truthordare truthordare, 14 days ago
      Anything unpleasant, as per the OP's perception will be deleted.
    7. charcoal charcoal, 13 days ago
      Welz attributions are built upon misconceptions like that. It was part of your reasoning yesterday for this shape being Welz, not Kralik.
    8. truthordare truthordare, 13 days ago
      As my constant critic has taken the initiative to create a post just to reinforce his claims, deny mine, and provide the BB ad I was trying to download for this post, I see there is no need for me to do so.

      If you don't see differences between the baskets, and the fact the descriptions does not allow for the colors used on his 'proof', then you make your own mind. I never expect any kind of approbation from this party, even when I post another Kralik basket on CW with plenty of backup documentation he can't deny.

      If you wonder when I speak of bad faith, that is shown by ignoring my documented posts, never giving any approval of any kind, and taking every opportunity to accuse me of a whole list of bad motives, and false claims.
    9. truthordare truthordare, 4 days ago
      The footrest has a large rounded polished pontil area.
    10. charcoal charcoal, 4 days ago
      Zero of them labeled Welz and zero of them ever found with Welz markings.
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 days ago
      Could I ask you to do a post on “Kralik, in their green orange and yellow spatter on clear glass casing” ???
    12. truthordare truthordare, 4 days ago
      Kevin, I can, in fact I did, but they were judged as not being alike the basket in the applications of the orange, green and yellow spatter chips.

      Since I can't post what I don't have, I would need to assemble a group from some of my collector friends, and I have to admit, this kind of Czech glass is not that popular.

      An interesting development is that this basket does not quite have the same proportions as the red one, and the BB one, the straight crimp rim border is shorter by about 1 inch.

      Some spatters in question:
      http://nebula.wsimg.com/d412b7ad0570908cf7e32ea3e8ef5d7b?AccessKeyId=3A908495ACD7ABD44DFC&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

      as a base spatter on a UV reactive glass base:
      http://nebula.wsimg.com/253bceaf05e50d8bb351df49ac8c6246?AccessKeyId=3A908495ACD7ABD44DFC&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
    13. truthordare truthordare, 4 days ago
      welzebub, your comment is not read and simply deleted on each and everone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.
    14. truthordare truthordare, 4 days ago
      welzebub, your comment is not read and simply deleted on each and everone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.
    15. truthordare truthordare, 4 days ago
      welzebub, your comment is not read and simply deleted on each and everone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.

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