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    Posted 8 months ago

    truthordare
    (337 items)

    The second basket was from the same seller, and also happened to be advertised AFTER October 1929, the Day on Wall Street, New York, the melt down of the stock exchange.

    As the other basket it was only shown once, as opposed to other better known shapes and decors that have been identified for years. In this instance, I think it is also Kralik, in their green orange and yellow spatter on clear glass casing.

    I don't care if you disagree with me, wont be the first time I am out of step with a group of Czech glass collectors here on CW, this is the beauty of this site, we are entitled to our own ideas and voice them.

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    Comments

    1. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Here's a CW posting explains how Riedel sold supplies to the whole glass industry, not just Welz.

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/265578-josef-riedel-glasfabrik--colors-for-the
    2. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      I doubt it is documented that Welz received preferred pricing on supplies from Riedel. The Kralik and Welz families were closely related too, if you remember. Gottlob Kralik & Klara Welz were married in 1903. Welz's diverse use of colors, as you say, are all colors available to numerous manufacturers through Riedel, and others.
    3. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      It seems that you make claims about glass attributions in this forum that are not supportable too!
    4. truthordare truthordare, 8 months ago
      Thanks Charcoal for the added info, thank you CW members for your support. Much appreciated.
    5. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Comment #2 was in reply to Welzebubs unsupportable claim that Welz received preferred pricing on colored glass supplies from Riedel, therefore Welz made far more colored glass than Kralik and others.
    6. truthordare truthordare, 8 months ago
      Anything unpleasant, as per the OP's perception will be deleted.
    7. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Welz attributions are built upon misconceptions like that. It was part of your reasoning yesterday for this shape being Welz, not Kralik.
    8. truthordare truthordare, 8 months ago
      As my constant critic has taken the initiative to create a post just to reinforce his claims, deny mine, and provide the BB ad I was trying to download for this post, I see there is no need for me to do so.

      If you don't see differences between the baskets, and the fact the descriptions does not allow for the colors used on his 'proof', then you make your own mind. I never expect any kind of approbation from this party, even when I post another Kralik basket on CW with plenty of backup documentation he can't deny.

      If you wonder when I speak of bad faith, that is shown by ignoring my documented posts, never giving any approval of any kind, and taking every opportunity to accuse me of a whole list of bad motives, and false claims.
    9. charcoal charcoal, 8 months ago
      Zero of them labeled Welz and zero of them ever found with Welz markings.
    10. truthordare truthordare, 8 months ago
      welzebub, your comment is not read and simply deleted on each and everone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.
    11. truthordare truthordare, 8 months ago
      welzebub, your comment is not read and simply deleted on each and everone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.
    12. truthordare truthordare, 8 months ago
      welzebub, your comment is not read and simply deleted on each and everone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.
    13. truthordare truthordare, 7 months ago
      welzebub, your comments are not read and simply deleted on each and everyone of my posts, I will certainly not act or react in anyway any more, its a wasted effort.
    14. Ms.CrystalShip Ms.CrystalShip, 7 months ago
      Welzabub... who cares! Stop already.
      Some of us just enjoy the beauty of things. I don’t care who made them , just happy Lisa posted them for us to see! Thanks Lisa!
    15. truthordare truthordare, 7 months ago
      Thank you again Ms.CrystalShip, I'm sure you see that it's an exercise in being as irritating as they can, under the cover for an obsession for any and all content I PUT FORWARD on CW that does not follow their opinions. I have yet to see a site rule that forbids members to disagree with other members, this is the crux of the matter.

      welzebub and scottvez, you are deleted again, for the multitude of comments you have posted that are not welcome. Harassment and stalking.
    16. truthordare truthordare, 7 months ago
      Welzebub, and anybody else that keeps lecturing and pretend to be interested can stay off my posts or be deleted. Harassment should not be allowed here.

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