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    Posted 2 months ago

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    A Royal Doulton figurine titled 'Top of the Hill'. Recently found at a thrift. I bought because it reminded me of my Great Aunt Margaret who was so fascinating. You climbed a winding staircase in an old apartment building to come to her apartment which was furnished in 1930s furniture. Did she have figurines in her apartment, I don't remember, Or maybe I bought it because it reminded me of a Jane Austin character or just a trip to England.
    I'm not sure, but could the number 1833 mean it was made int he 1930s? I just assumed it was from the 1960-1970s. I hope a Royal Doulton expert will weigh in on this.

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    1. Newfld Newfld, 2 months ago
      Beautiful RD figurine, that's one of their classics Maureen this may be one of the first issues. My own aunt had this in the later red dress version, hers was ca 1970s I think. Great find!
    2. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Jenni, I had no idea it might be quite a older than the 1970s. I just looked up the marks. I need to do more research! Thanks, Maureen
    3. Daisy1000 Daisy1000, 2 months ago
      Exquisite Royal Doulton figurine. The colours — fragile spring green & crocuses.
    4. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Hi Daisy1000, It does say spring to me, too. Everything turning green and starting to bloom.
      Thanks
      Ben,
      Aura,
      Daisy1000,
      fortapache,
      and
      Jenni
      For the love!
    5. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      racer4four and Vynil33rpm thanks for the love!
    6. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, I'm definitely not an expert, but I'll take a crack at it. :-)

      *snip*

      HN1833 Top ‘O The Hill Leslie Harradine 1937 1971

      *snip*

      http://www.doultonfigures.com/Doulton-HN-Numbers-List.pdf

      *snip*

      Beginning in 1913, a HN number was used on all wares. This HN number refers to artist/designer Harry Nixon of Royal Doulton. Harry Nixon was an artist in charge of painting the figures. Other artists included John Sparkes, George Tinsworth, Arthur Barlow, and Agnete Hoy among others. The HN numbers were chronological until 1940, after which time blocks of numbers were assigned to each modeler of the figures.

      From 1928 to 1954, a small number was placed to the right of the crown's marks on all items made between those years. This number (the one at the right of the crown's mark) when added to the year 1927 will give you the year of manufacture of a particular piece.

      *snip*

      https://www.drloriv.com/Tips/ID/48/Royal-Doulton-Figurines

      *snip*

      If you are lucky, your Royal Doulton piece may have an impressed date next to the trademark stamp. These impressed dates can come in the form of year, month and year and day, month and year. Sometimes these impressed dates are hard to see so insure you inspect your Royal Doulton item with a fine tooth-comb.

      Code numbers were printed on the base of Royal Doulton produced between 1928 until 1954. These numbers appear next to the right of the crown. The rule of thumb with these numbers is to add 1927. For example, if your inked number is ‘1’ the year your item was manufactured in 1928. Until 1930 roman numerals were used to display this number and from 1930 until 1954 Arabic numerals were used.

      Some Royal Doulton items have a latte number impressed in their base. These numbers were when the mould was created not the particular piece. Although not an exact date, a round about date can be worked out from this year considering most moulds would deteriorate quickly.

      The copyright date of a Royal Doulton piece is not the best indication of age. A piece that has a copyright date of 1937 can be produced until 2004. The production of the figurine generally begins one year after the copy right date but that isn’t to say that is the year your piece was produced in.

      Another marking that can be found on a Royal Doulton ornament is the artist’s mark. There have been hundred of artists that have worked for Royal Doulton over its lifespan. Each artist has a unique signature that usually represents their initials. For example, the artist Louisa Ayling uses a simple ‘a’ as her mark while Mary M Arding marks pieces created by her with ‘M.M.A’.

      *snip*

      https://www.antique-hq.com/royal-doulton-markings-back-stamps-and-trademarks-2341/

      So I'm guessing that "JG" are the initials of the artist who decorated your figurine (Leslie Harradine being the designer).

      That business about a number to the right of the crown had me wondering whether there was something underneath that brownish sticker fragment.

      I found another RD HN1833, and the markings on the underside are arranged quite differently from the ones on yours, but there are indeed numbers to the right of the crown:

      https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/PremierAuctionGalleries/89/638489/H4222-L162029885.JPG

      https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/Three-Royal-Doulton-Figurines_C4A44218AA/

      You may have to remove the remnants of that brownish sticker to look for numbers that will pin down a date closer than 1937-1971.
    7. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Keramikos, Thank you, thank you for all this information! There is an impressed mark to the lower left of the T in Top. I found it very hard to read but it looks like 366 to me. So would that possibly mean 1936, and June? These numbers are really hard to read and the first one is almost totally indecipherable. I scraped a bit of the tag off and there is nothing underneath it. JG is the monogram of Jessie Gandy. So I need to find out the years the artist was active to help me pin it down. I looked up Leslie Harradine and really enjoyed his biography. Again, thanks for all the enlightening information. Can you read the impressed mark?
      Best, Maureen
    8. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, You're welcome. :-)

      Sorry, while I saw the impressed mark, I wasn't able to read it, and was hoping that you might be able to do so by holding it at various angles and using different lighting.
    9. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Keramikos, Yes, I tried different light and angles. It seemed most readable at an odd 45 degree angle, but still can't definitively say what the first number is:)
    10. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Thanks for the love kwqd, and keramikos.
    11. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, You're welcome again. :-)

      I don't know whether you've done any more research on this, but I have, and about the only thing I've found thus far are a couple of Google e-book references to Jessie Gandy, both from publications dated 1889. I'll spare you the mile-long Google links:

      (From the Journal of the Society of Arts, Volume 37)
      The Society, 1889 - Arts

      *snip*

      ART WORKMANSHIP PRIZES

      The judges appointed by the Council of the Society of Arts have awarded the following prizes for objects at the Second Exhibition of the Arts and Crafts Exhibition Society the New Gallery Regent street.

      *snip*

      Pottery

      To Edith D Lupton 3 Doulton bowl 837 To Mark V Marshall 3 Stone ware jug 553 Vase 594 To Horace Elliott David and Edward Jenkins 2 Oriental vase 8o6 To JS Dewdney 2 Renaissance vase 515 To Walter and Jessie Gandy 2 Jar salt glazed 594

      *snip*

      (From the The Englishwoman's Review of Social and Industrial Questions, Volume 20 Garland Publishing, 1889 - Great Britain)

      *snip*

      Among the prizes awarded by the Council of the Society of Arts the following were granted to women Pottery To Miss Edith D Lupton 3 Doulton bowl 827 To Walter and Jessie Gandy 2 jars salt glazed 5948

      *snip*

      (About the Englishwoman's Review from another Google e-book, The Englishwoman's Review of Social and Industrial Questions: 1889 Janet Horowitz Murray, Myra Stark Routledge, Dec 19, 2016 - History - 662 pages)

      *snip*

      The Englishwoman’s Review, which published from 1866 to 1910, participated in and recorded a great change in the range of possibilities open to women. The ideal of the magazine was the idea of the emerging emancipated middle-class woman: economic independence from men, choice of occupation, participation in the male enterprises of commerce and government, access to higher education, admittance to the male professions, particularly medicine, and, of course, the power of suffrage equal to that of men.

      First published in 1979, this twenty-second volume contains issues from 1889. With an informative introduction by Janet Horowitz Murray and Myra Stark, and an index compiled by Anna Clark, this set is an invaluable resource to those studying nineteenth and early twentieth-century feminism and the women’s movement in Britain.

      *snip*

      Given Jessie Gandy's mentions in 1889 publications, it seems to me that the early part of that Top ‘O The Hill production range (1937-1971) is more feasible than the latter.
    12. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Yes, I hadn't gone quite as far as you had, but I found a reference to her that would imply it would have to be early production if it is indeed her signature. I saw her monogram on this site:

      https://antique-marks.com/doulton-artists-marks-g.html

      I wrote to Royal Doulton. I will let you know if they respond.
    13. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, Cool, thanks. :-)
    14. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, While you're waiting to hear back from Royal Doulton, I did a search for Walter Gandy, and got some more references dated to the late 19th and early 20th century:

      *snip*

      A lovely large Doulton Lambeth vase in a very nice Art Nouveau floral design by Walter Gandy c1902-1914. The base is fully marked with the Royal Doulton mark, the 'Doulton & Slaters Patent' mark, WG (Walter Gandy) & other small factory marks.

      *snip*

      https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/large-royal-doulton-lambeth-art-287096994

      *snip*

      The bottom of the vase has several markings, including the Lion and Crown Royal Doulton mark of 1902-1922, as well as the number "6673", a flip-mirrored double "f", the lettering "BBo"(?), and a rather faint inscription which appears to be "WG" for the artist Walter Gandy (please see close-up photos below).

      *snip*

      https://www.desertgold.us/RoyalDoultonListed/RoyalDoulton_ArtNouveauStonewareVase_WalterGandy.html

      (From the Goole e-book copy of The Artist: An Illustrated Monthly Record of Arts, Crafts and Industries, Volume 27 Truslove, Hanson and Comba., 1900 - Art)

      In his lecture on Design for Pottery Mr Lunn remarked regretfully enough yet resignedly as to the inevitable that modern commercialism forced to cope with output in huge quantities has almost given the go by to the potter's wheel substituting the mould I much regret I have no verbatim report of the most interesting discussion which followed between Mr Walter Gandy of Doulton's and the lecturer each championing the method which his long experience had proved most suitable for his work Mr Gandy in the following communication very shortly and too modestly gives me his views.

      "I do not know that I can add very much that would be of interest It certainly will be a great loss if in modern pottery the thrower's wheel is no longer to be commercially available We are fortunate here at Lambeth in working in a material for which the wheel is the accepted means of production and further fortunate in that we have several very clever throwers The method is so typical of and special to the potter's art that it seems worth while to face its difficulties for the sake of utilising its characteristic qualities W Morris in his lecture at Burslem on Art and the Beauty of the Earth though not mentioning the wheel must surely have had it in mind in saying Those of you especially who are designing for goods try to get the most out of your material but always in such a way as honours it most Not only should it be obvious what your material is but something should be done with it which is specially natural to it something that could not be done with any other."

      Walter Gandy apparently was married to one Ada Dennis:

      *snip*

      Ada Dennis (British painter) fl. 1882 - 1904
      Three Children at Play in a Rural Setting, ca. 1900
      Faience Plate for Royal Doulton
      20.5 cm. (8.07 in.) diameter
      artist monogram
      private collection
      © photo Bonhams

      Ada was Senior Assistant in the Faience Department from 1882-1904 for Doulton Lambeth and then for Royal Doulton. She was married with Walter Gandy , who also worked there.

      Source: Worthpoint

      *snip*

      https://m.facebook.com/female.artists.in.history/posts/2461670214117853

      I did find another Jessie Gandy dated reference (framed by two other Gandy references):

      (From the Google e-book copy of The Health Exhibition Literature. ... W. Clowes & Sons, 1884)

      GANDY HERBERT Lambeth School Engravings on Wood Sec XIX
      GANDY JESSIE Lambeth School 1881 84 Doulton & Co Keramics Vase Sec II
      GANDY WALTER Lambeth School 1872 73 1875 77 Debigns Panel Tiles Wall Papers Sees I II XVI
    15. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      One more (unfortunately, they don't show a picture of the maker/artist marks):

      *snip*

      Doulton Burslem plates (two) Pinder Bourne & Co fine Earthern Ware. With hand painted & gilded decoration of water Lillies. Impressed oval Trademark back stamp Pinder Bourne & Co, Burslem. Impressed date 6.81. Printed pattern registration diamond mark for May 1879. Artist mark (possibly) Jessie Gandy.

      *snip*

      https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/item/1296550-doulton-burslem-plates-two-pinder-bourne-and-co-fine-earthern-wa/
    16. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      Great work keramikos!. Royal Doulton said they forwarded my inquiry to the right department and would get back to me.
    17. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, You're welcome. :-)

      It will indeed be interesting to see what RD comes back with.
    18. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Here's a friendlier copy of something I gave you snippets of earlier from a Google e-book copy. It seems Jessie Gandy was a student at Lambeth School 1881-1884 (see page 122):

      https://archive.org/details/CatalogueOfManufacturesDecorationsAndDesigns/mode/2up
    19. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      And I was curious about old Herbert, so I noodled around and found this:

      (From a Google e-book copy of People of the Period: Being a Collection of the Biographies of Upwards of Six Thousand Living Celebrities, Volume 1 Alfred T. Camden Pratt Neville Beeman, 1897 - Biography - 531 pages)

      GANDY Herbert artist. He was free from his masters Messrs Sparkes and Nightingale at the famous Lambeth School Art when he ventured to exhibit at a black and white exhibition at the Egyptian Hall and found to his surprise that on the evening of the private view day all his work had changed hands. He was then seventeen. Though not a regular worker in black and white Mr Gandy occasionally relapses into the medium of his first triumph, illustrates books and labours for the art press. Decorative art engrosses a good deal of his attention now. Principal Works -- Overy Mill, Oxon, Aphrodite Hears, September, Rescue.
    20. plein-air-painter, 2 months ago
      That's very interesting. Seems like a few Gandys were artists. I wonder if or how they were related.
    21. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      plein-air-painter, Yeah, it would be interesting to know the relationships if any.

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