Posted 3 years ago
kwqd
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This Koransha sake set consists of a tokkuri (flask) which is four inches tall, four ochoko and five saucers. Just when I think I have seen the thinnest pottery I have ever seen, something thinner comes along. The ochoko in this set are paper thin and incredibly fragile and the tokkuri is only slightly thicker. The saucers are more substantial.
The seller originally had a set with two tokkuri and five cups and saucers but due to an unfortunate accident one tokkuri and one ochoko were destroyed. The seller was offering them as two sets, one with only two ochoko. I originally purchased only one set with a flask and three cups and saucers, but after the seller's accident, they very graciously threw in the surviving pieces from the other set for free, so I am using the extra saucer for the tokkuri. All of the pieces came from an estate sale. This is very fine, thin porcelain, so it is easy to understand how breakable these pieces are. No tomobako came with this set, which is disappointing and dangerous to their existence. I suspect that, when new, they came in a tomobako or they would not have survived this long.
As soon as I saw this set, I thought it was Fukagawa based on the painting until I saw the orchid stamp and realized the kiln that made these pieces was Koransha. The Gotheborg Japanese pottery site explains the relationship between the Fukagawa and Kornasha Kilns and dates the mark on these pieces to the 1920s or 1930s, but I am still trying to verify that. There is a great deal of confusion over dating these marks. Some folks appear to lump Koransha pottery under Fukagawa as a subset, but they are distinct kilns.
https://gotheborg.com/marks/fukagawa.shtml
"Koransha - Ko Ran Sha - The Scented Orchid Company
In Meiji 8th (1875) the porcelain potter and business man Ezaiemon Fukagawa (1833-1889), Fukaumi Suminosuke & his brother Takeji, Tsuji Katsuzo and Tezuka Kamenosuke founded a company named Scented Orchid Company or 'Koransha' and started to produce porcelain for export to Europe and America. In 1879, Fukaumi and other members left the company and Koransha was reestablished by Eizaemon alone. After his death in 1889, his oldest son, Yotaro succeeded the company while his second son, Fukagawa Chuji started the Fukagawa Porcelain Company. The orchid mark seems to have been used into modern times."
https://www.koransha.co.jp/koransha/koransha_english.html
http://modernjapanesepotterymarks.blogspot.com/2014/12/fukagawa-seiji-and-koransha.html
Absolutely gorgeous set Kevin.
Stunning painting on that fine porcelain.
Thanks Karen! A lot of work went into decorating these pieces.
Thanks for loving my Koransha sake set Karen, aura, fortapache, Jenni, SEAN68 and dav2no1!
Thanks Thomas and Kevin!
Thanks Alfred101!
Thanks vcal!
mnenic waki , f,,,,,,, difficult
Thanks, waki! Yes, this is a tough one.
Well i don,t pretend to known this , and actually, i only push buttons , but the only difference is I push AWFUL lot of buttons
by the way a very skilled summary of considering fukagawa, before and after intertwining
well we could find a KORANSHA , we probably drown in it , but try to find a mark , what is called double open frame squared mark , it is almost impossible
i tried a lot of SHOWA_early 2 second world 1935-1942, which mark wise the most tentative solution it won,t work the greyish blue underglaze is different
Well actually want do want we want fancy stuff decaled or shablones, well you should have visited Valentino liberace, wholesale 14 dollars retail something like95 dollars
Or you want real handpainted Japanese , well dream SAnta CLaus is recently deceased
WE want honest hard labour, WE want the Stachanovs in the coal mines
you noticed the stroke and dot in the frotte (striking)
you see the tiny discongruences in the lets say The red molars, thats honest work, bit out of focus which is an error otherwise the foliate left above got swallowed, it is one way ( overpainting)
left under foliate , density difference , well good for authenticy, does,not afterglaring ,no sweat , but i got very bad eyes
what is the status of the plate , because painted does,not always mean completely painted a so called hybrid status ( for instance decapitated ruyi heads applicatian)
i lack the skills for this ( an inside out discission versus inside out of the foliate, well i don,t , probably it is all ok , why working your ass off to perform the periferie well and then using a application of type spraying
so probably your thesis was right from the start and mine was wrong, lets date it 1920( it make some sense, run a lot of glazing from Xipangu)
personal opnion i LOVE this , and for once i am in the cheering sektion, well we - will get there in the end, small steps people you already learned a russian word today,
we don,t want you to get an overloaded
WAki
correction inside out discussion painting- versusoutside in discussion
Thanks for your comments and assessment, Waki! Not sure where I stored these, but I will get some better images when I find them.
Gorgeous set (and I also have a weakness for paper-thin Japanese porcelain!).
Thanks for your comments, rhineisfine! This is so thin that I am afraid to use it!
Thanks for loving my Koransha, Faith.k and rhineisfine!