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    Posted 13 years ago

    donna18103
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    OK here are a few more images. Hope this helps!

    1930? CLOTH BODY- COMPOSITION HEAD,LEGS,ARM. 27INCHES TALL PETITE? petite/A12732
    CAN ANYone help me identify this doll please?

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    1. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      I believe she is an American Character Doll.
    2. donna18103, 13 years ago
      hI- tHAT IS SOO FUNNY- HER NAME IS ESTHER ALSO! sO TO RESEARCH i WOULD LOOK UP AMERICAN CHARACHTER DOLL?
    3. donna18103, 13 years ago
      HER NAME? WHERE CAN i FIND OUT ABOUT HER?
    4. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Try here:
      http://www.dollreference.com/american_character_dolls.html
      They also have a forum where you can post a pic and maybe someone will recognize her.
      I'm still looking for her, to see if I can find her name...
    5. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      The dimples remind me of the bottletot baby, but he is only 14 inches tall...
    6. donna18103, 13 years ago
      I am not having any luck yet- but will keep trying. LOL!
    7. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Could you do me a favor? Take a closeup picture of the face, hands and feet. Sometimes something as silly as the position of the fingers triggers someone's memory.
    8. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Undress the doll, and take a pic of her nude.
    9. Vestaswind Vestaswind, 13 years ago
      The American Character Petite dolls came in many sizes, that is who she is. "American Character Petite" that is her name.
      http://www.etsy.com/listing/75897709/18-american-petit-composition-cloth-doll
    10. Vestaswind Vestaswind, 13 years ago
      And another
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-AMERICAN-PETITE-CHARACTER-BABY-DOLL-18-/320706162970?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aab93b11a

      The Bottle Tot does look alot like this one, but her arms are short and bent to hold a bottle. I think they are smaller also
    11. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Thanks Vestaswind, I just could't put my finger on who it was. I was close, though..lol
    12. Vestaswind Vestaswind, 13 years ago
      Really you had it right. She is an American Character doll, and she is marked Petite.
    13. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      ahhh..for some silly reason, I thought Petite was a division or model of American Character dolls..but it is her name. duh!
    14. Vestaswind Vestaswind, 13 years ago
      It's not a name like "Sally", she is just a Petite MaMa doll. You took her to the right page, it explains what the name Petite is, and helps date the doll. Quoted on that page.
      American Character Doll Co., also known as The American Doll and Toy Corporation, Aceedeecee, ACDC, (1919-1968) made composition dolls and later hard plastic and vinyl. In 1923 "Petite" was the trademark used on their early mama and character dolls.
    15. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      double duh! I read it a couple of times, and still didn't see it.
      I think I've been working too hard...major brain meltdown in 3...2...1
    16. donna18103, 13 years ago
      Thank You both soo much- she is trying to sell it and doesn't know what to ask for it. Any ideas?
    17. donna18103, 13 years ago
      BUT THIS ONE IS 27" TALL The ones you refer me to are 18"
    18. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Tell her not to sell it!
      Tell her to gift it to someone that will love her. Someone from Europe...let's say...oh, I don't know...Spain?
      just kidding...or not
      Anyways, look at ended sales on ebay, on tia, on ioffer....that is the best way to find out a real value of something.
    19. donna18103, 13 years ago
      where r u from?
    20. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      I'm living in Spain, a 20 min walk to the Mediterranean
    21. donna18103, 13 years ago
      I still c.an't find one 27" tall- I am going to take a few pics when I see her. And WOW_LUCKY YOU! DID YOU ALWAYS LIVE THERE? SOUNDS BEAUTIFULL. And I will be posting a shirley temple doll I am trying to research also. If you find her (exact match) please let me know. HMMM.. If I get her to give it to me I will ship her to you!
    22. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Awww...thanks!!
      Post that Shirley Temple. But when you do, remember: we need material (porcelain, vinyl...), size, rooted hair or wig, and any markings she may have.
    23. Vestaswind Vestaswind, 13 years ago
      I would have to see her without her clothes to be sure. With dolls bigger is not always better, but she is an American Character Petite. So far I haven't found one that big, it doesn't mean they don't exist
    24. Esther110 Esther110, 13 years ago
      Still trying to find her!
    25. donna18103, 13 years ago
      My father-in-law found these numbers on it A12732
    26. Vestaswind Vestaswind, 13 years ago
      I'm still thinking I need to see the body. There is a good chance her body has been replaced, she doesn't look in proportion to me. This looks like your doll here in much rougher shape.
      http://tinyurl.com/3unogul
    27. donna18103, 13 years ago
      Hi Vesta,
      The knees have dimples on them. Unlike the doll you show. Has no dimples on knees. I think hands r different too. Pinky and thumb stick out. I sure don't proclaim to be an expert- just noticing things to look for as you say. So- do you wish to see another picture of the body?
    28. Carolyn, 12 years ago
      I HAVE this doll also, but I believe mine is the smaller size. this doll was my mother's doll, and I can tell you what I know about it. This doll came in a set, and the doll you have is the bigger big sister doll, I believe. My Aunt still has the Big sister doll, as she was the older sister. My mother gave me the little sister doll that was hers. I believe it is 18 inches. The little sister doll has (in my model) a working "Mama" box that cries Mama when the baby doll is bent forward (as if you were going to bend it over your knee and spank it, if you can believe that!) There was an even smaller rubber baby doll that my mother and sister had to go with the set, but Mom didn't know if that was original to the set. The two sister dolls are marked "Petite," and were made by the American Character doll company. The research I did on these dolls years ago stated that the molds for these dolls were broken in 1924. That would be about right, as my Grandmother was given the dolls second hand from the original owner in 1929 or 1930, as the original owner was an old woman whose children were grown and no longer wanted the dolls. My grandmother would have had no christmas presents for my mother and aunt that year of the great depression if it wasn't for the older woman's kindness, so my grandmother was sure to give the girls the details when they were old enough to hear them! The body shape on your doll is very similiar to mine, it is rather a rough shape, as these were early model dolls. My doll has original body with a second layer of cloth put over the body by a professional doll restorer to protect it, and it looks just like yours. My mother had my aunt's doll restored at the same time as hers. By the way, my mother's name was ALSO Esther, but she died in 2008. My mother grew up in Minnesota, and my aunt was from there also until they both retired to Texas. Until I saw this post I had never seen an existing model of this doll except for my aunt's bigger doll. Do you know how much she is selling it for, as my cousins will of course keep their mother's doll someday, and it might be nice to pass a complete set to my daughter?
    29. Caro2210, 12 years ago
      By the way, my little sister doll also has knee dimples and the hands look like your doll's.
    30. donna18103, 12 years ago
      Well Hello Caro=(L)?
      Thank You so much please send me your email as we are not allowed to speak of selling things here> I did not read that and got kicked off one time.
      that is soo interesting to know. And OMG- ESTHER!! LOL! Please email me at eric18103@gmail.com.
    31. donna18103, 12 years ago
      My mother-in law is 82 and she got it when she was 2, so it was 1930-31. I have a picture of her holding it then- LOL!
      send me an email.

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