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    Posted 3 years ago

    CynthiaB
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    I was given this click by a very dear friend of mine.
    Most of the print on the back of the clock has faded and gone dark.
    Where could I get a copy of the detail that was inscribed on the back, and,....what is the history of this clock?

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    1. Bruce99 Bruce99, 3 years ago
      Okay, so as you know it is a small Sessions black mantel clock. Collectors Weekly has a nice summary of the company here: https://www.collectorsweekly.com/clocks/sessions
      A photo of the back might be helpful. It may be possible to find a reproduction of the original label on eBay.
      Good luck.
    2. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi, CynthiaB. :-)

      Beautiful.

      I concur with Bruce99; please add more pictures, especially of the back. You're allowed up to four pictures per post.

      FYI, in order to orient properly your pictures, you may need to edit them before posting.

      Collectors Weekly Show & Tell software doesn't play nicely with all photograph sources, especially some smart phones and tablets.

      When I downloaded and edited a copy of your photo using Windows 10 Paint, the dimensions were 2880 x 2160 pixels.

      That works out to an aspect ratio of Width / Height: 1.33:

      https://toolstud.io/photo/megapixel.php?compare=video&calculate=uncompressed&width=2880&height=2160

      If you could make a copy of your photograph, trim some of the excess image from underneath the clock, and then replace the current copy in this post with the edited one, it might orient correctly.
    3. Bruce99 Bruce99, 3 years ago
      The closest illustration that I could find in my references is a Sessions model they called the "Ideal" from circa 1910. It fits into the "Enamelled Wood" Mantel Clock classification. If that is the model you have, it would measure 10 1/2 inches high by 10 inches wide. From what I can see, the side ornaments of your clock look a little different than my catalog illustration so you may have a different model, they may have used a variety of side ornaments, or someone changed the original ornaments for some reason. A lot can happen to a clock over the course of a 100+ years.
      Let us know if you have any questions.
    4. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Bruce99, I think you nailed it. :-)

      Here's one in a museum:

      https://d3ecqbn6etsqar.cloudfront.net/4_7K3wMKP-5O1oH_FVntc-Ik_x0=/0x720/smart/167880.jpg

      *snip*

      Mantel clock with a rectangular case of ebonised pine in a flat top architectural style including a plinth on which the clock case sits and two corinthian pilasters at either side of the face. The circular dial is coated with celluloid laminate with black printed arabic numerals. The hands are of blue steel in spade style. A brass ring, hinged on the left side, surrounds glass covering the dial. There are decorated cast-iron handles on the middle of the sides and two decorated cast-iron paw feet at the front. The back cover of the clock (ebonised pine), is detachable and has a partly illegible and badly damaged label pasted to its middle. The movement is marked 'IDEAL', the timetrain and striketrain is five spoke and the escapement strip recoil.

      *snip*

      https://collection.maas.museum/object/127437

      This outfit has a couple of Sessions clock labels:

      https://timesavers.com/i-8944427-sessions-clock-company-label.html

      https://timesavers.com/i-8944426-sessions-clock-co-clock-label.html

      But yes, having a photograph of the original label would help in finding a replacement. :-)
    5. Bruce99 Bruce99, 3 years ago
      Nice find Keramikos. I'm not overly fond of Timesavers but one of those may match the original. Hopefully there's enough of the original label still attached to make that determination. Instructions for one label may be totally inappropriate to operation of a different movement. If a positive match can not be determined, it would be best not to attempt a reproduction replacement. Replacement itself might be ill-advised if originality is important to the value of the clock. In this case, it probably would not matter too much. It's all about the owner's preferences (until the clock is on the market).

      Welcome to the party! :)
    6. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Bruce99, Hey, I never would have found it without you providing the crucial criterion "Ideal." Combining that with "Sessions" made it pop right up.

      I agree about the label.
    7. Bruce99 Bruce99, 3 years ago
      It's good to have you onboard keramikos! Hope to see you around. :)
    8. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Bruce99, Thanks. :-)

      I've actually been around; I just don't always stick my nose in on vintage clock posts.
    9. Bruce99 Bruce99, 3 years ago
      keramikos,
      Okay. I guess I'm kind of like a Bridge Troll around here. :) I don't act like a troll though. I've been trying to help folks with heirloom clocks for a little while now. I do like a fair amount of different things in the daily feed when I visit though. It's a great website. I always check back here though. Regards.
    10. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Bruce99, You are not trollish insofar as I can tell. :-)
    11. Bruce99 Bruce99, 3 years ago
      I try not to be keramikos. It's a nice community. Not much troll food to feast on I suppose. Some disputes pop up from time to time, but what's the point? We're here to enjoy peoples' collections and help wherever we can, right? :) So it looks like you may have an affinity for antique appliance/machines, eh? I can see where clocks might pique your interests.
      Best regards,
      Bruce
    12. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Bruce99, Well, it's working for you. :-)

      Yes, I also like to help people when I can.

      The biggest rabbit hole I seem to have fallen into because of Collectors Weekly Show & Tell is vintage sewing machines.

      I won't call myself a vintage sewing machine expert, because I don't even own one (unless you want to count an early eighties economy model Bernina), let alone ever taken one apart and rebuilt it.

      However, there's so much information out there on the Internet about vintage sewing machines, especially Singers, but a lot of people seem to have trouble finding it.

      I started helping the ones who managed to find CW S&T (I found out from one poster that Singer referred them here), and got further and further into it. Let's call it a slightly obsessive interest. };-)

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