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    Posted 9 months ago

    MMNJ
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    This is an art print that looks like it may have been cut from a poster or another source, measuring about 26x19”. I can’t make out the signature next to the year 1970. Any information would be appreciated.

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 months ago
      Is it in Greek or Russian Cyrillic ???
    2. apostata apostata, 9 months ago
      i don,t know but Iconic pillars and an sort of Bourtzi square + copula

      it might have t an religious connotation, i probably talk b.s but at least i tried
    3. dav2no1 dav2no1, 9 months ago
      Very cool..
    4. MMNJ MMNJ, 9 months ago
      It may well be a different alphabet than the Latin one, possibly Cyrillic, and a religious theme makes sense with the doves (?) in the sky. Thanks for the input.
    5. Watchsearcher Watchsearcher, 9 months ago
      I’ll just toss my idea out there….I’m seeing Greek columns and I’m seeing a minaret and domed buildings associated with Islam.
      I think the painting has a definite religious connotation with the flock of doves- as if bringing peace to Muslims who have immigrated to Greece.
      I can’t help with the signature except to note that it’s a bit unusual for Americans to write a “7” like that with a horizontal line thru it….so maybe the artist is from another country…Greece, maybe.
    6. apostata apostata, 9 months ago
      if it is a manara the top of the manara is fantasy

      actually i wonder if an ummah would allow to situate a mosk surrounded by christian buildings
    7. keramikos, 9 months ago
      MMNJ, Very interesting. :-)

      Watchsearcher, Good point about the slash in the number 7:

      https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-write-the-number-seven-as-7-with-a-small-horizontal-line-in-the-middle?top_ans=36922772

      The architecture in the scene does seem to be mixed, which may be a reflection of change over time.

      For instance, the tower on the left side of the picture seems to be surrounded by fortifications, whereas the buildings on the right side have a more open quality, along with Grecian elements like the Ionic columns.

      Those little structures in the middle that look like domed pergolas also have a Grecian flavor to me (like the domed churches in Santorini).

      I don't think it's impossible that the tower might have been a minaret at one time. We could be looking at a community that was originally built by Muslims, but over time became something else culturally.

      Here's an interesting tidbit about minarets:

      *snip*

      The earliest minarets were former Greek watchtowers and the towers of Christian churches.

      *snip*

      https://www.britannica.com/art/minaret-architecture

      As to that signature: I can barely decipher other people's handwriting when they write in the Roman alphabet, let alone other alphabets.

      I say this with humility, because my own handwriting ceased to be good once they stopped enforcing the Palmer method in grade school.

      The thing that first character most resembles is a number "4." Beyond that, it might be a Cyrillic "che," but that's a stretch.

      Y'all go nuts with it:

      https://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/index.htm
    8. Watchsearcher Watchsearcher, 9 months ago
      I thought the digit that looks like a 4 could be a J. Beyond that, no idea.
    9. keramikos, 9 months ago
      Watchsearcher, Interesting.

      If it's a "J," then it wouldn't be Cyrillic, because while there is a letter in Cyrillic that represents that general sound, it looks nothing like the Roman "J."

      Pretending that it's Roman alphabet, I get "Jino'l.K." Yeah. Sigh.

      Back to the images.

      I suspect that apostata might be right about the top of that tower being fantasy, because it looks to me like a hat. More specifically, a conquistador helmet. Yeah, now who's fantasizing, huh? };-)

      I suppose the tower could have a tiled 'roof' surmounted by a dome.

      I'd quit while I'm ahead, but it's way too late for that. >8-0
    10. keramikos, 9 months ago
      Because I can't seem to quit just yet, here is a drawing of different styles of minarets:

      https://i.redd.it/igwzck32e7881.jpg

      https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/rq5l0f/common_minaret_styles_of_different_islamic/

      The Umayyad minaret is the closest to what I had in mind. That is, there is an observation area with a tiled roof, surmounted by a dome.

      Of course, the tower in the print isn't necessarily a minaret. Being that it might be surrounded by the fortifications, it would seem more likely to be a watchtower.

      Maybe I can stop now. Maybe. };-)

      A little theme music:

      The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower (Official Audio)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY
    11. apostata apostata, 9 months ago
      excellent point of view , only we got one problem the Banu Abd Sham have never been to Greek as Omajjaden as far as i know
    12. MMNJ MMNJ, 9 months ago
      Thank you all for the input and insights. Given the year of 1970 and the peace message with the doves, and the mix of Hellenic and Muslim architectural elements (however fanciful), we can speculate that this may relate to the forced population migrations among Greeks and Turks and the brewing conflicts in that region (in Cyprus and other places) around that time. I’m still hoping someone may decipher the writing; I’ve not been able to come up with anything intelligible on that in any language yet.

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