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Posted 6 years ago

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I was told these were possibly vases by Franz Welz and have researched quite a bit and cant find anything with this type of 'square-ish' rim, the link is to 'scottvez' post is the nearest I can find.

I too like Greatsnowyowl (in 'scottvez' post) am leaning towards Legras, but not sure! so can anybody maybe put me in a direction, any help would be appreciated, thanks!

It has a polished inverted pontil mark and they stand approx..22cm - 6 1/2 inches tall.

Have placed them in the Bohemian category as wasn't sure were to put them.

Thank you for stopping!...:-)

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  1. Manikin Manikin, 6 years ago
    Beautiful inky ! They remind me of ears of corn but much more beautiful ! Love love
  2. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Yes!... you are right they do don't they! thank you Manikin!.....:-)
  3. walksoftly walksoftly, 6 years ago
    I was thinking the same thing as Mani!!
  4. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 6 years ago
    Wo-ah!!! Spectacular, inky!!!
  5. Justanovice Justanovice, 6 years ago
    Wow! You sure are pickin em now!!! love them!
  6. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Many thanks walksoftly ~ miKKoChristmas11 ~ BELLIN68 and Justanovice, for all your lovely comments and love.

    Thank you vetraio50 ~ scottvez and czechman for the love!...:-)

    Justanovice, I have to stop hunting!!...;-)
  7. ozmarty ozmarty, 6 years ago
    Hi Inky what a stunning pair. !!
    Could also be British - Stourbridge S &W ish ....
  8. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Hi! ozmarty, many thanks!.. will go off and research in the direction of S & W, wouldn't mind finding out it was by them.....:-)
  9. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Many thanks to MacArt ~ Slave-to-glass and Phil for the love!....:-)

    Good to see you up and about....;-)
  10. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
    KS, Legras has varied quality. you can't look at one piece of legras and base all conceptions on that one piece. Some legras has pontil scars some is mavered some is thick and some is thin, some has fantastic exceptional quality enamelling some look like something a kindergartener could have done better. so on and so forth. there is a ton of variation in product from legras. From what I can tell from the book the line names are based on the shape not the glass color patterning. there are a lot of designs that are very similar to yours but they have wildly different names. It seems to be based on a trim pattern more than the ribbing.
    I doubt the piece on the right is Legras.
  11. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
    these could also be Harrach (along with the possibilities of English or Legras)
  12. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
    that last comment was back to topic on these pieces btw I realized that could be confusing. :)

  13. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
    Spatter stuff is not my specialty I'll be the first to admit it. (in fact, I really don't much like the stuff as a general rule, no offense) :) but I have seen a ton of legras in general and the quality is wildly variable so I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a wide difference in the field. It's a mistake to get too hung up on details like thickness, pontil and what not when it comes to legras (or Harrach for that matter). :)

    They also made this for a number of years. Plenty of room for variation. Whoops I do have a piece in a shape that was also done for spatter. it definitely has a cut and polished pontil scar. So, I can confirm for sure that some of these have polished pontil marks.

    but I am talking more in general than arguing for the two above. the more I look at the ones above the more I do think they're probably Harrach or English of some flavour.

    @ Ks's two examples looking at the book some more. I am totally unsure about your right piece. It might be.

  14. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Thanks Greatsnowyowl and ks85 for stopping and discussing it has been most interesting!....:-)
  15. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Thanks very much Mac63 and Hedgewalker ....:-)
  16. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Many thanks MattyG!...:-)
  17. inky inky, 6 years ago
    Many thanks Shawnl86!....:-)
  18. Vintagefran Vintagefran, 4 years ago
    Beautiful, unusual vases inky. Posted just before i joined i think, Glad I've seen them. Sorry i can't help ID, good luck
  19. inky inky, 4 years ago
    Hi Vintagegran....yes it was a while ago and still none the wiser..although I am leaning a little towards English now...:-)
  20. Vintagefran Vintagefran, 4 years ago
    Ahh, I'd have guessed English, but then i know nothing, lol, could as easily be Bohemian, whatever, they are lovely unusual vases.
  21. inky inky, 4 years ago
    I know nothing tool! Vintagefran and agree what ever they are!.....:-)
  22. wenna, 3 years ago
    hmmm, these are the first vases that I have seen that have even a passing similarity to one I have (also unidentified)...check this out please!
  23. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 3 years ago
    so yes now we have similar shapes with my pink vase and my yellow Harrach?
    I love these. I would call them corns on the cob...very unoriginal...
  24. wenna, 3 years ago
    It does look like indian corn! Every once in a while I start another search on my yellow vase but still nothing. This the only one I've seen that is even vaguely similar in shape.

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