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    Posted 9 years ago

    mikewicks
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    Hi, we recently picked up this old sword and matching 'pig sticker'. It is interetsing because the bayonet is mounted to the side of the sword scabbard. I am trying to determine where the sword and bayonet are from, era etc. Markings on the blade are H B - 6 and the serial number 1520. Any help would be appreciated.

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    1. mrmajestic1 mrmajestic1, 9 years ago
      Apparently this is a Russian Cossack Sword /Sabre with attached bayonet, as described on ebay. On other sites these are said to be mostly faked by the Chinese. One person said these were never a real weapon but imaginary item produced by the Chinese for the international weapon collector market, another says these were real and produced by the Soviets during World War 2 for the Cossacks. Once again, do your homework and get expert opinions that you trust.
    2. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 9 years ago
      If this were real, it would be a Russian Model 1881 Dragoon Saber. Dragoons were mounted infantry, and I suppose that explains the bayonet mounts. As the model date implies, the sword was first issued by Tsarist Russia, although the Soviets also manufactured them. I doubt this would be issued to a Cossack unit. The Cossacks had their own style of sword without a knuckle guard, but I suppose they may have used these too. They are not a fantasy sword, they are well documented. As for the bayonet mounts on the scabbard, I’ve seen less of those, but I believe those were real as well.

      Now for the bad news: As mrmajestic says, the Chinese have copied this sword extensively for sale to the unwary. The real swords I’ve seen have fullers extending almost to the hilt, which I don’t see here. Most of the real ones have a number of stampings, including an armory marking and date of manufacture. To my knowledge, HB-6 is not an armory marking, and although H and B are in the Cyrilic alphabet, I find it quite a coincidence that the only two letters on the sword are also in our Latin alphabet. In my opinion, this is one of the Chinese copies.

      As always, I am happy to have some of our members who are more knowledgeable in this particular field correct me.

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