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Early 20th century US troopers armed with 45-70 Trapdoors

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Posted 5 years ago


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I love this type of image that shows arms and equipment being used well beyond the development of newer weapons systems.

These three US soldiers are all holding Springfield Trapdoor Rifles. The one on the left looks to have the Buffington rear sight, so these are probably all M1884s.

Additionally, the two soldiers on the left have chest badges, so they may be Military Police.

There is no identification on these soldiers or their unit.

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  1. Militarist Militarist, 5 years ago
    With no collar brass and badges wonder if they could be state guard or prison guards? Interesting photo.
  2. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
    Could be militarist-- thanks for looking and commenting.

  3. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
    Thanks tony and vetraio.

  4. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
    thanks buss.

  5. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
    Thanks p....

  6. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 5 years ago
    The lack of collar discs - or any other insignia besides the badges - caught my attention too. I notice the hat cords are a light and dark color, twisted, with light color acorns. That may be a clue.
  7. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 5 years ago
    The collars on the uniforms looked pre-WWI, so I did a bit of research, and I think these might be the 1907 jackets which were phased out well before WWI. That brings the photo closer to the issue period for the Trapdoor Springfield, although as you know, it would still be obsolete in the Regular Army.

    As to being MPs, I learned the Army didn’t have a trained Military Police Corps until much later. The little bit of reading I’ve done tonight indicates that military posts and regiments simply detailed men to perform policing duties, and if there was any insignia, it was usually a brassard
  8. AmberRose AmberRose, 5 years ago
    Oh yea, good one
  9. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
    Thanks chris-- I suspected that they may have been earlier than WW1. My knowledge of these early 20th century uniforms is not where it should be!

    I will update the title.

  10. walksoftly walksoftly, 5 years ago
    Very interesting image!
  11. Chrisnp Chrisnp, 5 years ago
    Thanks Scott. I love images that send me back to my reference books.
  12. scottvez scottvez, 5 years ago
    Thanks for looking tlmbaran.


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