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    Posted 7 years ago

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    This wonderful vase took both! hands… because of its size and weight! to lift it out of the enormous!!! box it came in, all the way from the Netherlands…

    It stands a whopping….approx… 35.5cm tall x 63cm around it’s girth ( 14” x 25”)…and weighs 5lbs 7.1/2oz. or nearly 2.1/2 kilos.

    The décor… I can’t find anywhere..if anybody knows of it or has seen this décor could point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated..thank you.....(Found..FLORA)

    I still has part of its Bohemian sticker on it and again!... I can’t find this actual label to help me date it...there are a decent amount of wear marks on the base so has some! age.

    Thank you for looking…:-)

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    1. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 7 years ago
      Omg it's stunning!! Great score!! Looks Kralik. And the decor is wonderful :))))
    2. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Many thanks Moonstonelover21....:-)
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Now that is a very interesting label, inky!
      Nice big vase, too.
      A local purchase?
    4. SEAN68 SEAN68, 7 years ago
      stunning and I agree with Kevin interesting is right !!!
    5. DrFluffy DrFluffy, 7 years ago
      Love the colors...
    6. Mac63 Mac63, 7 years ago
      I was looking at the label too - the language on the label certainly looks Italian.

    7. Manikin Manikin, 7 years ago
      Beautiful inky !!!!!!
    8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Hi, the language is French, I think.
    9. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Weight of it and the language (now! that I am told what it means) certainly points in the Italian direction but! the fact it actually says Bohemia on the label and has the double looped arrow which appear on Bohemian glass labels.
      The thing that puzzles me I have searched also! the Italian labels and most are in English and those that aren’t are! part English…also! I can’t find one Italian label with the exact same looped arrow.

      Hello! czechman… my attribution was based on the double looped arrow also it says on the label Bohemia and! that I was told by a fellow CW that it may be a Kralik…I am always!! up for correction as I want to be correct or… as near correct as it can be… so if you can help it would be very much appreciated…I only buy what I like so I am always happy… having a correct attribution to a piece is just a bonus and a learning process for me!

      Another thought...might the label be a traders label???..rather than a makers label??
    10. inky inky, 7 years ago
      vetraio50...Typing at the same intriguing…loving this!!… I am just about to put a better photo of the label on, managed to gently scrape some of the foil back…:-)
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      The symbol on the sticker is that of Bohemia Crystal: Glassexport Co. Limited, I think.
      I think the rest of it would be:
      VERITABLE BOHEME - Garanti D'Origine - Tchécoslovaque

      There's another image of an intact sticker here:
      Item: 2318840
    12. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      A better view of the label here:
    13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      That sticker would indicate the time when this was made.

      Post War?

      a bit of the history:

      • 1945 decree of nationalization of large industrial companies.
      • 1948 the state-owned Borocrystal company was established. It brought together approximately 55 small glass-making companies and the state-owned company Umelecke sklo. Also in 1948, the Skloexport (Glassexport) company was established. This company was responsible for the exporting of Czech glass for more than 40 years.
      • 1974 the name Crystalex was introduced. The head office was located in Novy Bor. From there, factories in Novy Bor, Kamenicky Senov, Harrachov, Chribska, and the research department in Novy Bor were run. Glassworks Bohemia in Podebrady, glassworks Cesky kristal in Chlum u Trebone, glassworks Moser in Karlovy Vary and glassworks Moravske sklarny in Kvetna (which operated factories at Kvetna, Karolinka and Vrbno) were also operated at arms-length under the Crystalex umbrella.?
    14. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Thank goodness for the last link I had just lit the fire for the billy and thrown the damper in the camp was so long...:-) are amazing...:-)
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Just time to add the pectin for the strawberry jam! Miam!
    16. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Sooo! the fact it doesn't have Crystalex on the label makes it between 1948/74..agree??...:-)
    17. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Noooo! heaps of butter and treacle...:-)
    18. inky inky, 7 years ago you think I am safe calling it a Kralik then?..:-)
    19. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Hello LeahGoodwin...Yes! just now....I managed to scrape some of the curled foil back that had hidden most of the word ‘Boheme’ which I had seen before but left and have taken another photo showing it…what I would like to know is… can I safely call it a Kralik as Gary has also said that he thinks it is, he is the second person who has..what is your thoughts on this..:-)
    20. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Many thanks czechman...:-)
    21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Kralik means Lenora (German: Eleonorenhain). There were three Kralik factories, it seems. They are part of the southern tradition of Czech glassmaking. The Lenora factory was taken over by the Germans in 1939 and they brought in Hungarian and Bulgarian workers for war-time glass production. It can be argued that Kralik existed until 1939. After the war is another matter. Records were bulldozed by the Communist authorities in 1973,
      Here is a site with some great photos of the Lenora glassworks:
    22. inky inky, 7 years ago
      vetraio50....Thank you so very!! much for all your research..time and links, tonight when I have more time I am going to sit with a glass of red and read and research more…:-)
    23. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Many thanks...
    24. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Thank you so much for your great comments...and!..interest
      THE!! lovely Manikin
    25. SEAN68 SEAN68, 7 years ago
      You know Alfredo , I could see that happening!!! , names for decors seem to disappear for a while:) but then what do know!!! LOL:)
    26. SEAN68 SEAN68, 7 years ago
      What do I know:)
    27. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Many thanks Phil ~ mikelv85 and dasullywon and Alfredo and Sean for your comments...:-)

    28. Slave-to-glass Slave-to-glass, 7 years ago
      Well then Inky after reading about this amazing vase and all the great research done...I think you would have naming rights on this decor! It has no such name and not seen so I would think you could call it what you like :) Its stunning. Well done !
    29. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Many thanks S2G and ozmarty...S2G..I am going to try and see if I can any ideas...:-)
    30. Justanovice Justanovice, 7 years ago
      Got visitors inky so missed this one! What a stonker!! And our vetraio is blooming good what!!? Seems just on sorted inky, not that I could have told you, but well done you yet again!!!:)
    31. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Maybe this one should meet the mother of all vases in a photo shoot with some friends?
    32. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Up-date on my vase..for those that might be intersted..although the label is still a mystery to me, as in... different! to those I have seen from the glassworks of this time…
    33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      So different to the others in the Flora range!

    34. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Gad!!!!. vetraio50...don't start me off searching!...:-/
    35. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      I've certainly gone tangential. Massimo Marino?
    36. inky inky, 7 years ago
    37. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      I found this conversation about Koudelka:

      That took me to this link:

      It's at the bottom of that page!

      There is lots of interesting information on that glassmessage board reference.
      Read it!
      Schneider! Myra etc.

    38. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      How's your German?
    39. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Non existent I’m afraid vetraio50...:-/
    40. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Mine is very poor. On the ipad the catalogue is unclear but I think the Koudelka and Flora is there. Case solved. But I think I have some research to do on this topic. Thanks for the stimulus!
    41. Slave-to-glass Slave-to-glass, 7 years ago
      If there was an award for finding information Vetraio just won it.... lol
    42. inky inky, 7 years ago
      On mine too's my pleasure and it's me that has to thank you..S2G is write...:-)
    43. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      This is a better way to view the article on Koudelka:
    44. inky inky, 7 years ago
      vetraio50..great work!...just need someone to translate it now..still reading through the message-board stuff...more about the blue one than like mine...:-)
    45. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Hi inky! I have typed out of the German text from the Glasrevue article.
      I've put it through the translator and a lot of it is banal, but there have been some interesting items within.
    46. inky inky, 7 years ago
      vetraio50...If not an inconvenience, any chance of you sending via email to me..if you still have it, that is!...:-)
    47. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
    48. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Have you got my email address? Send me a message an I will return it to you.
    49. inky inky, 7 years ago
      Many thanks ..... Rucklstiltskin ~ walksoftly and aldo78... much appreciated...:-)

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