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Posted 3 years ago


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i bought this very heavy brass object many years ago at a yard sale in my old neighborhood in san francisco [bernal heights]. it's about 6" long and 1" wide. i would LOVE to find out what it is after all these years!

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  1. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    that's a good guess rob. there are just the two parts and a perfect fit. one reservation i have it that the craftsmanship on them is very, very high quality. they aren't mold-made, but hand forged and machine-tooled. they are very heavy also.
  2. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    ok. they do seem a bit heavy-duty for lamp finials though, don't you think?
  3. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    ok. good answer. thank you.
  4. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 3 years ago
    Hi, gentlemen. Hope your Sunday is splendid. I think that RobinHawaii's hypothesis and arguement is great. I saw your listing right after you posted ho2cultcha, and two hypotheses immediately came to mind - lamp finial or curtain rod terminal, but then I looked closer, and said, nope it's neither. I had never considered a swag lamp! FYI, the flame finial looks a lot like the a Pottery Barn lamp I wanted but didn't buy about eight years ago. Can't find a photo now. It was a floor lamp with a 'Morroccan' silk flame shade suspended from an arm bar projecting horizontally from the floor stem. Terrible sentence, but beautiful lamp. I think that there might also have been a swag lamp with this series. Too expensive for my budget, or I might have purchased one. I can't remember the name of the line, but I think that the shades were in Dupioni silk, and they had a 'Moroccan' flavor. FYI, About this time, a friend replaced her curtains. There were all manner of metal finials somewhat similar to this flame motif at that time.
  5. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    hmmm! i'd love to see some pics, because i'm still a little skeptical. both halves of this thing are quite heavy and solid. if they happened to fall on you from a couple feet up, they could really do some damage! [perdon the dreadful thought]

    another reason i am skeptical is if they are both meant to be finials, why is one a female and the other a male? wouldn't they both be the same?

    possibly i'm skeptical because i've just never seen finials like these. all the ones i've seen are light-weight / modern materials or small pieces made from older materials.

    those pottery barn lamps sound intriguing!
  6. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    I think the light fixture idea is correct, the 1/8 " NPT is very common in lighting.
    I'm thinking exterior brass sconce light fixtures.
    Look on google images.

    my 2 cents

  7. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    it's 3/8", not 1/8". i spent an hour looking for something similar on ebay and didn't find a single one. or am i looking in the wrong place?
  8. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    i have a box full of old finials and interesting drawer pulls too, and i just don't see anything similar about them. ?? it could be i've just never seen one like it before, but if i do see one, i'll be easily convinced...
  9. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    1/8th National Pipe Thread does not have a measurement of .125"
    The actual outside dimension of 1/8th pipe is actually .405", so your measurement of .375" is correct for the tapered end of the threaded nipple.

  10. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    thank you rob in hawaii and walk softly. i'm more convinced now. it makes sense that they are part of the same lamp - one on top and the other underneath - female/male. i'd love to see the lamp that they belonged to.
  11. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    I think that you have the makings & the talent to build your own!
  12. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
    thank you for the confidence and inspiration walksoftly! i may try to do that one of these days. i'll keep you posted if i'm satisfied w/ the results.

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