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Paper1645 of 2751 Circa 50s Era Map of Downtown  Buffalo, NYSpiritual crusade Admission ticket??
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    Posted 7 years ago

    DrNessa
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    Hi,

    I just bought this great piece at a local estate sale.
    The daughter didn't know much about it, but told me it was most likely
    painted on sheepskin.
    Looks to me like vellum, with some small ripples.

    However, my Latin reading days are a long time ago and I'd love to
    know what it says.

    I'm assuming it's some sort of religious sheet music, but can't be sure.

    The piece is encased in a frame between 2 pieces of glass, I've enclosed 2 pictures of each side..............

    Can anyone help me identify what it reads?
    And maybe how old it is (aprox)?

    Thanks for your help,

    Nessa

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      This will get you started.

      Three separate elements:

      A) ....... filiis zebedei

      B) at illi dixerunt ei possumus Iesus autem ait eis calicem quidem quem ego bibo bibetis et baptismum quo ego baptizor baptizabimini

      C) Assumpsit Iesus Petrum, et Iaco(bum, et Ioannem fratrem eius, et duxit illos in montem excelsum seorsum: et transfiguratus est ante eos.)

      There are a few version possible of C.
      They come from various sources in the Vulgate Bible.
      Probably part of a mass construct for one particular day of the year.
      That will take some time to define.
      This is just the start.

      I think it's a wonderful item!


    2. Manikin Manikin, 7 years ago
      Translation Latin to English on vetraio50's help
      A- Is German ?
      B -And they said to him: We shall indeed drink the cup that I drink you shall drink, Jesus said to them, and with the baptism that I am baptized you shall be baptized with
      C-Jesus took Peter, and James, (the word, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart: and He was transfigured before them
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Mark 10: 39 :.....at illi dixerunt ei possumus Iesus autem ait eis calicem quidem quem ego bibo bibetis et baptismum quo ego baptizor baptizabimini
    4. DrNessa DrNessa, 7 years ago
      Very cool that you guys will translate this for me.....very much appreciated!

      Nessa
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Might have been for the second Subay in Lent.

      http://books.google.com.au/books?id=hbVEAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA244&lpg=PA244&dq=Assumpsit+Iesus+Petrum,+et+Iaco(bum,+et+Ioannem+fratrem+eius,&source=bl&ots=GoRaH8cD5D&sig=JzQ0bB3qhWFByU36PppZXjHGQKI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wK6eUpf3CKG4igK_2YCABg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Assumpsit%20Iesus%20Petrum%2C%20et%20Iaco(bum%2C%20et%20Ioannem%20fratrem%20eius%2C&f=false
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Assumpsit Iesus Petrum, et Iaco ... is perhaps from Matthew 17.1
      In that time Jesus taketh unto him Peter and James,

      at illi dixerunt ei possumus Iesus autem ait eis calicem quidem quem ego bibo bibetis et baptismum quo ego baptizor baptizabimini

      They said to Him, "We are able." And Jesus said to them, "The cup that I drink you shall drink; and you shall be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptised."
    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      A vellum page from an old Franciscan manuscript?
      Framed and became a Baptismal Gift?
    8. DrNessa DrNessa, 7 years ago
      Wish I knew how the lady got it.................
      I guess we never will, interesting though!

      Nessa

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