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Very Old and Large Ndebele Inititiation Doll from South Africa

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    Posted 8 years ago

    ho2cultcha
    (5042 items)

    Here's another one of my finds from Urban Ore in Berkeley yesterday. I'm not sure what it is, but my best guess is that it's a beaded Zulu doll from South Africa. i'd love to learn something about it, whatever it is.

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    1. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      wow! this is a very large and old Ndebele inititiation doll from South Africa. probably from the 1950s. these are very valuable and sought after by collectors.
    2. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      i've been researching this and this appears to be the real thing and relatively old. i thought it was 50s, but now am thinking earlier like 1930s/40s. it's not your average Ndebele doll, but a really, really good one!
    3. inky inky, 8 years ago
      Well done!!!... great find...love anything with hand done bead work!....:-)
    4. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      thank you inky! i'm very happy w/ this interesting piece.
    5. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      i was looking at auction values of dolls like this one recently and was astounded at what these old ones go for! i think that this one is worth at least several thousand dollars. shocked!
    6. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      i need to find someone around here who can restore this. there are a few spots where the beeds are falling off and that odd hoop thing w/ smaller beaded hoops are falling apart. this Ndebele fertility doll is most like this one i saw which sold at Sothebys for over $12,000 last year. see how there are different patterns w/ the beads? i think that it's a sign of a very old one. this one has 5 hoops and each one is beaded in a different pattern. that's a very good sign, from what i could find out about them. i'd love some feedback from experts on this one. also if anyone knows a reputable bead restorer here in the bay area. thanks!
    7. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      here's a pic of an obviously newer one than mine which is valued at 800-1000. https://www.antiquehelper.com/item/372482

    8. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      i read on another site that ones like these were not made for tourists but for their use by the tribe.
    9. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      here's an interesting article about the Ndebele and their art:

      http://afritorial.com/tribe-the-artistic-ndebele-of-southern-africa/

      i think that this doll is from the 1950s, which is considered to be very early.

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