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    Posted 4 years ago

    Golgatha
    (207 items)

    This Chinese porcelain plate with scalloped edge is a thrift store find. Hight 3.5 cm, diam. 24.5 cm. I got it for the equivalent of USD 5. According to experts is it late Guangxu (1874-1908), early 20th century. If you can date it more precisely, then tell me.

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    1. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      probably they defined this is xangxi revival scalloped late 19 century, see the chalkrock trough the house, could be possible my eyes are too bad, inconclusive
    2. Golgatha Golgatha, 3 years ago
      Thanks for the comment. I'l have it in mind !
    3. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      could this be igezara , i don,t know bad eyes and no skill
    4. Golgatha Golgatha, 3 years ago
      Could be, apostata. Thanks again.
    5. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      this sucks big time , because i don,t know, a rotten straw sedimentation on the bottom , with a sort of japanese double outer circle on the bottom , f,,, i can,t stand losing , one day i find out
    6. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      Japanese Underglaze BLUE IMARI Porcelain PLATE Brown Scallop Edge Signed piccklick, but thats a piecrust , and that,s later , so now we have to search for a real Genroke without izegara

      LOT 839161 catawiki Large Igezara Plate - Japan - Ca. 1900, but thats a piecrust, so this got nothing to do with chinese guangxu
    7. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      wrong blue for genroke i am out of options , i like this , this a probably an 19 century good japanese print without being a piecrust

      best regards waki, end of story
    8. Golgatha Golgatha, 3 years ago
      Thanks again apostata. Let me know when you have the definitive solution.
    9. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      i got no definite solution , i narrowed it down , i think it is quite well educated guess , bad news no guangxu, good news = very well print , end of story

      best regards waki
    10. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      xxx entry marking ( homework )
    11. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      dating is right the only discussion is transfer ware versus the imban- de- technik which is STENCIL technik, does, not matter much is splitting ants, slighty preference for transfer were, cant see well enough

      addendum white panels Sh?chikubai = THREE FRIENDS OF WINTER

      The Three Friends of Winter is an art motif that comprises the pine, bamboo, and plum.[1] The Chinese celebrated the pine, bamboo and plum together, as they observed that these plants do not wither as the cold days deepen into the winter season unlike many other plants.[2] Known by the Chinese as the Three Friends of Winter, they later entered the conventions of East Asian culture.[3][4] Together they symbolize steadfastness, perseverance, and resilience.[5] They are highly regarded in Confucianism and as such represent the scholar-gentleman's ideal.[1][6]

      The Three Friends of Winter as Sho Chiku Bai in Japanese (literally "pine, bamboo, plum")[9] or Song Jug Mae (???) in Korean.

      In Japan, they are particularly associated with the start of the New Year, appearing on greeting cards and as a design stamped into seasonal sweets.[10] Sh?chikubai (???) is sometimes also used as a three-tier ranking system. In this context, the pine (matsu, ?) usually is the highest rank, followed by bamboo (take, ?) as the middle rank, and plum (ume, ?) as the lowest.[11]

      In a Korean poem by Kim Yuki (1580–1658), the three friends are brought together in order to underline the paradoxical contrast:

      Peach and plum of springtime, don't flaunt your pretty blossoms;
      Consider rather the old pine and green bamboo at year's end.
      What can change these noble stems and their flourishing evergreen?[12]

      must be meticulous enough

      greetings waki
    12. Golgatha Golgatha, 2 years ago
      Thanks again for your analysis. So we're in Japan late 19th century. Everything of interest in my collection has an index card with all information I've been able to put together. These index cards are under constant revision. That's why I hope my posts on CW lead to more information.
    13. Golgatha Golgatha, 2 years ago
      The decoration is typical Igezara, but the thorned rim is here replaced by a scalloped rim. Can it still be called Igezara ? You tell me ?
    14. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      the consequence of the scalloped rim is stretchingthe time spread window lets say early mid mejji - till taisho 1

      while the piecrusts got a shorter time window something like 1885-1915

      its technic before shape , so it is still igezara , the taisho 2 periode in the Fukagawa chargers is even called igezara
    15. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      till taisho 1 must be end taisho


    16. Golgatha Golgatha, 2 years ago
      Thanks again. The confusion comes from Igezara meaning 'thornplate' in Saga prefecture dialect. Although here no 'thorns' but scallop rim.

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