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Posted 3 years ago

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walksoftly
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I need help identifying this pattern.

Bought this at an auction yesterday, I new nothing about it, just liked the colours.
I'm straying from my comfort zone on this, from what I've found out, it dates from 1891 - 1900+, was hand painted, & appears to be a open sugar bowl.
Mfg. by Spode for T, Goode & Co. a high end store.
Dia. 2 7/8"
hight 1 5/8"

Pattern #R5159
Thanks to annerobertson60 for figuring out this mystery.

Mystery Solved

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  1. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Thanks for the L's, Mani & scandi.
  2. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Thanks for the L & the comment, Bellin.
    I hope someone can help identify the pattern& other details on this piece as I've been unable to find anything online.
  3. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Thanks scandi for spending some time on this, I just found out that Spode has an estimated 75,000 patterns & thousands of shapes, this could be a difficult quest for info.
  4. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Thanks mikko for stopping by & showing this some love.
  5. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    I tried looking also, was thrilled when I found one like it only to discover that it was your post showing up. Will keep looking.
  6. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Hi eye4, that is getting close, it's nice to see this bowl drawing some interest again, thanks for your help so far.
  7. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    This has to be a rare pattern, the only thing I see is yours.
  8. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Thanks for the love nldionne, & it's nice to have you in on the search.
  9. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    The numbers might be 5587, looks like they were done with a brush & it's hard to make them out.
  10. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    http://spodehistory.blogspot.ca/p/spode-archive.html?m=1

    Have you tried this? They are supposed to have all answers. Good luck.
  11. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    @ nldionne thanks for that link, I searched on that yesterday, so far no luck.
    Thanks for your interest & help in this.
  12. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    Did you see stokes archive, can send picture and they will research supposedly.
  13. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Hi eye4,
    I did look at your comment # 9, it is close but there are differences. That garden scene is used on several different patterns that I found. It seems they mixed & matched the inner scenes with different borders & colours.
    Even the two cups/bowls that I have are slightly different.
    One thing that I noticed with these is the quality of craftsmanship isn't as good as other Spode items, is it possible they are for cheaper sets to be sold on mass through the T Goode & Co store.
  14. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Hi nldionne, I did see the contact info for the archive research, unfortunately I also saw what they charge for their services.
  15. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    Ahhhhh, sorry didn't see that. Wish I could have helped. If you could read the numbers may lead to pattern. I've looked at so many that Chinese Rose is imbedded on my retinas.
  16. nldionne nldionne, 3 years ago
    Is this it? Please tell me it is !
  17. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    @ eye4, I think I'm a little slow and or tired & confused, I see a lot of images in that link but what one were you referring to.
  18. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Eye4 in the link you provided # 25 there is no individual image, all I get is the full batch of images under the search term copeland spode t, goode & co.
  19. walksoftly walksoftly, 3 years ago
    Thanks so much eye4 for your help & research & patience on this mystery.
    You are correct on the fact that it is the similar, this pavilion or garden scene shows up numerous times in various patterns.
    If I understand the transfer technique properly, they first did a master engraving on copper, then did a reverse image on paper. This could then be used as a complete image or cut into it's various elements & combined with other engravings to come up with a new pattern.
    The elusive part is now to find the garden scene in combination with the border pattern.
  20. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    Have you been able to find anything out? I have 12 dinner plates that I adore. Same border, same scene. Yours is the first piece I've ever seen that was the same. Looking for more pieces, but don't know where to look until I know the name.
  21. walksoftly walksoftly, 2 months ago
    @ annerobertson60, no it still remains a mystery.
    Sounds like you found a mother load, twelve dinner plates amazing!
  22. robin56 robin56, 2 months ago
    Try antiquesnavigator.com. I remember seeing a pattern similar.
  23. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    They were passed down from my grandmother :) I didn't have to look! Thanks, Robin. I'll give them a try.
  24. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    I found an advertisement from a magazine dated March 1917 that lists it as a new pattern (with photo). Unfortunately it still doesn't give the name, but it does describe it as a Chinese pagoda pattern with a Chippendale edge.
  25. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    OK! Found it! :)))) Feeling pretty stupid. The pattern number is on the back of my plates. I googled and nothing came up. Went to Replacements and found it:
    http://replacements.com/webquote/SP_R5159.htm
  26. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 2 months ago
    Hmm. Going off topic, looks like this author plagiarized the ad.:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=-k3iAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA148&lpg=PA148&dq=Spode+chinese+pagoda+pattern+with+chippendale+edge&source=bl&ots=xauPU12FUV&sig=RPKRGQ16ax79cnNiTYQVwZHis4I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMIo76Lq9nZxgIVglGICh2kbwTC#v=onepage&q=Spode%20chinese%20pagoda%20pattern%20with%20chippendale%20edge&f=false
  27. walksoftly walksoftly, 2 months ago
    Thanks Anne for figuring out this pattern.
  28. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    Behold the power of Google! How amazing that we live in a time when that kind of thing can get picked up! It could also be that the author wrote the ad (more like an article, really) as a contributing writer to the magazine. Seems like a precursor to her book, perhaps.
  29. walksoftly walksoftly, 2 months ago
    Thanks for the love
    Efesgirl &
    katherinescollections
  30. walksoftly walksoftly, 2 months ago
    Anne can you post a link to that add as I couldn't find it.
  31. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    Ha! I'd "lost" it when I posted that last night. Here you go: https://books.google.com/books?id=mF4-AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA49&lpg=RA2-PA49&dq=compotes+are+always+useful+and+the+one+shown+at+the+lower+left&source=bl&ots=JNxYuVr1r3&sig=gCfA-xqnTYn5mCkCAWmGcHLl81k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAGoVChMI24-bkt7axgIVRKWICh0k5gFB#v=onepage&q=compotes%20are%20always%20useful%20and%20the%20one%20shown%20at%20the%20lower%20left&f=false
  32. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    Walksoftly, I've looked for pieces for sale for a while. Yours is the ONLY piece I've ever seen. I went through every Spode pattern on replacements until I hit it. "Searching" didn't produce anything. Definitely helped to have the dinner plate for reference. Glad the mystery's been solved! Enjoy your sweet little bowl!
  33. walksoftly walksoftly, 2 months ago
    Anne does yours have the Copeland Spode mark or just the Spode mark on it?
  34. annerobertson60, 2 months ago
    Mine have the Copeland Spode mark.

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