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    Posted 12 years ago

    slik0
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    This is a cameo I found about 25 years ago don't no much about it wondering if some one can help me to see if it's fake or real ?

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    1. DobbinDee70, 12 years ago
      Heat up a pin and stick it in the back while still hot . If it goes in it is fake .
    2. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 years ago
      Its fake. I can tell just from looking
    3. DobbinDee70, 12 years ago
      So can I , but I was not going to come right out and say that .
    4. slik0, 12 years ago
      I'll put it in the bin then . I done the hot pin test it don't melt
    5. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 years ago
      Why not? She directly asked in the text f it was fake or real. Its not like I'm being insulting or rude, its a very neutral question, whether its a real shell-cameo or not.
    6. DobbinDee70, 12 years ago
      Stillwater : I was not implying that you were being rude or insulting . I was just trying to be gentle . I know what it is like to find something you hope may have some value and it ends up not being real .
    7. Newtimes Newtimes, 12 years ago
      Well, don't put it in the bin. You can still wear it or you could make someone else happy with it. I really don't think sticking a hot pin in any piece of jewelry is ever the right thing to do. You could have ruined it. And if it were old celluloid it could have exploded!
      Well anyway, still a nice piece.
    8. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 years ago
      Ohh celluloid won't explode.. Thats an "old collectors" tale haha
      I've got really good nearsight, so I haven't ever used a hot pin on something, but I know people who use that method to differentiate ivory and Ivorine
    9. DobbinDee70, 12 years ago
      Putting a hot pin into the back of something would NOT ruin it ! You can tell that this cameo is not real just from looking at it . A real cameo is carved out of shell or another hard material . Not shinny plastic .
    10. Newtimes Newtimes, 12 years ago
      Well yes you can tel just by the look of it that its plastic, I know.
      And the difference between ivory and ivorine is not that difficult to spot when you know what to look for.
      I wouldn't know that celluloid won't explode. They got me really scared with that 'collectors tale', but I think you COULD really ruin something by sticking hot needles in it, so I never tried it.
    11. DobbinDee70, 12 years ago
      You just stick the hot pin in far enough to see if it goes in . You do not run the pin clear through the piece and a tiny hole on the back of something is not going to hurt anything if it is not real and no one is going to see the back of it while it is in use anyway .
    12. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 years ago
      Yes I can spot Ivorine a mile off. I said that I KNEW someone who needed a hot pin, she has bad eyesight. I've personally got extremely good nearsight, I don't even own a loupe.

      If you can stick the pin into like, the VERY VERY tip of something, just to see if it melts, its not going to ruin it. Just don't jam it in a quarter inch. I've had pieces of Bakelite that people have done that too, its just unnecessary to go in that far in.

      I know, I've read that about celluloid too, they make you think its TNT or something haha. It will burn very hot if you hold a flame to it though. As a matter of fact, cellulose is a component in TNT, but its very stable.
    13. Newtimes Newtimes, 12 years ago
      Ok so that way it won't damage the piece to bad.
      I still don't think I will trie the hot needle test anytime soon...maybe thats because I'm just a girl ;-)
      Anyway, thanks for making me a bit more skeptical for the info on those old materials.

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