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I wanted to post a few of my newest coin silver spoon purchases. I was able to get some really nice "older" examples in good condition with legible hallmarks. I will return to do my usual with the measurements and style and all...today I am just going to list them because it is getting late:
Please forgive I have to double check my references I could have sworn this was a 1790 spoon, but I have conflicting info. I will get back to this!
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Three years earlier, perhaps. London. Not a very exact bottom mark?
vetraio, I am sorry, not sure what you are asking. I do agree I thought the year was 1787 also. Do you think so? I remember reading that on teaspoons during certain years....I think pre-1800 they left off the city marks. Is this correct?
If you are referring to the city mark vetraio, there is none.
I am going to try to find where I read that about teaspoons.
found it:
1781 - 1784 Three top-marked stamps; lion passant, maker and date letter (i.e. no leopards head crowned)
1784 - 1820 Four top-marked stamps; lion passant, maker, date letter and duty mark (i.e. still no leopards head crowned).
under the teaspoons section here:
http://www.antiquesilverspoons.co.uk/types_of_spoons.htm
The reason I am confused has to do with the dates of the maker (George Smith V)...
http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon5.html#M
has his work dated at 1828..that is 41 years off from this spoon That doesn't seem right, my ref. book said something different....let me check.
AH HA! Jackson's Hallmarks Pocket Edition lists a:
George Smith IV - same hallmark as his son, Last 1/4 18th century - "Prolific Spoon Maker" so it stands,
George Smith IV 1787...
Well done, BHock.
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Nice one BHock45, and vetrai050...straight into my CW "silver collection" Thx.
You might also want to know that when you see initials in that configuration the item is often a wedding gift. For example, it might be something like John + Mary Fenwick, or some such.
You might also want to know that that particular George Smith was a notorious duty dodger. There is a really good book on English flatware and there is one of his pieces shown where he has stamped his makers mark 4 times and then obscured 3 of the marks so that it looks like a fully hallmarked piece. My wife has one exactly the same in her collection of silver spoons.
hey thanks hems303!!! lovedecanters thanks for the info.