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English Sterling Silver Teaspoon - George Smith IV, London 1787

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Posted 1 year ago

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BHock45
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I wanted to post a few of my newest coin silver spoon purchases. I was able to get some really nice "older" examples in good condition with legible hallmarks. I will return to do my usual with the measurements and style and all...today I am just going to list them because it is getting late:

Please forgive I have to double check my references I could have sworn this was a 1790 spoon, but I have conflicting info. I will get back to this!

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
    Three years earlier, perhaps. London. Not a very exact bottom mark?
  2. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    vetraio, I am sorry, not sure what you are asking. I do agree I thought the year was 1787 also. Do you think so? I remember reading that on teaspoons during certain years....I think pre-1800 they left off the city marks. Is this correct?
  3. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    If you are referring to the city mark vetraio, there is none.
  4. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    I am going to try to find where I read that about teaspoons.
  5. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    found it:

    1781 - 1784 Three top-marked stamps; lion passant, maker and date letter (i.e. no leopards head crowned)

    1784 - 1820 Four top-marked stamps; lion passant, maker, date letter and duty mark (i.e. still no leopards head crowned).

    under the teaspoons section here:
    http://www.antiquesilverspoons.co.uk/types_of_spoons.htm
  6. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    The reason I am confused has to do with the dates of the maker (George Smith V)...

    http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon5.html#M

    has his work dated at 1828..that is 41 years off from this spoon That doesn't seem right, my ref. book said something different....let me check.
  7. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    AH HA! Jackson's Hallmarks Pocket Edition lists a:

    George Smith IV - same hallmark as his son, Last 1/4 18th century - "Prolific Spoon Maker" so it stands,

    George Smith IV 1787...
  8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
    Well done, BHock.
  9. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    thank you sir! Thanks everyone for the loves!
  10. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    thanks everyone for the loves!!!
  11. Hems303 Hems303, 1 year ago
    Nice one BHock45, and vetrai050...straight into my CW "silver collection" Thx.
  12. lovedecanters lovedecanters, 1 year ago
    You might also want to know that when you see initials in that configuration the item is often a wedding gift. For example, it might be something like John + Mary Fenwick, or some such.
  13. lovedecanters lovedecanters, 1 year ago
    You might also want to know that that particular George Smith was a notorious duty dodger. There is a really good book on English flatware and there is one of his pieces shown where he has stamped his makers mark 4 times and then obscured 3 of the marks so that it looks like a fully hallmarked piece. My wife has one exactly the same in her collection of silver spoons.
  14. BHock45 BHock45, 1 year ago
    hey thanks hems303!!! lovedecanters thanks for the info.

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