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Posted 12 years ago
bumblepuppy
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We just dug this New Haven clock out of an estate filled with treasures. I would like to know more about New Haven clocks and particularly this one. It is much more ornate and in a much different style than I am used to finding. All and all, it is very cool! The back says 8 day Occidental striking.
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I just found this on a collector's website:
Style:New Haven "OCCIDENTAL".
Comment:Beautiful Walnut case. Very collectable.
Stock Number:2182
Case:Walnut mirror side case with original ornaments. height = 24 1/4 " width of base 16 1/4" by 5 1/2" deep
Movement: Original 8 day Brass time and strike on gong.
Value:Not For Sale $ 1,250.00
Year: 1895
Reference: New Haven Clocks and Watches by Tran Duy Ly
Condition: Case - Excellent. Works - excellent.
Very nice clock. I love these mirror-sides. They were very popular! Ansonia made one called the "Triumph" and I believe that some of the other American Clock Manufacturers made very similar models. You have to take "Value" statements with a grain of salt. The collector's website was a little misleading in that Tran Duy Ly appraised an original mint-condition example of this clock at $600-$650 (page 311, "New Haven Clocks and Watches, 1997 with 2000 Price Up-Date)
thanks Bellin and Bruce. I was curious what this one is worth, I did find one in similar condition that is on proxibid so I am going to keep an eye on it to see how it does. Thank you for the info. It is a cool clock no matter if it is worth $200 or $1250!
The one in the picture? That is my brother Josh.
Yes, it's a very nice clock. They're pretty tall and look great on a mantel. Ly's appraisals are usually on the high side in this market, but clocks do sell at auction for more if two or more collectors start going at it. The collector you cited had an appraisal twice that of Ly's so clearly they weren't looking to sell and even said it wasn't available for sale. If you go to: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/search?q=new+haven+occidental&sort=relevance&dtype=gallery&type=complete&rows=20 you'll see that most of these models that are in decent shape have sold at auction for somewhere around $300 plus or minus $50 over the last five years. One I have a record on eBay (Item 190547733566) sold for $355 on June 26, 2011. Ultimately it's worth whatever the Owner is willing to let it go for and the Buyer is willing to drop for it. Liveauctioneers.com is really a valuable, free source of auction result information just as long as you know the keywords to search on. Best regards
Awesome info Bruce. Thanks. I use liveauctioneers sometimes when I am researching things and it is very helpful.
You're very welcome. Something that I forgot to consider is that those reported hammer prices do not include Buyer's Premiums which, depending upon the auctioneer, can usually run anywhere between an additional 10%-20%. That's a significant bump in the total prices paid. Taking Buyer's Premiums into account, let's say this model's current auction value in good condition is typically around $350 plus or minus $75. Best regards