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    Posted 13 years ago

    mytreasures
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    Need help ID machine, year, value, etc. Can you tell me the year, value, how to judge condition etc. Thanks Dub

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    1. Terry, 13 years ago
      If you will go to Singer.com, you can put in the serial number and it will tell you what year it was made and even what factory produced it. Your serial number should be the 573104. It looks like an industrial machine.
    2. Bernadette Bernadette, 13 years ago
      It's a 24-13 - exactly as you put in your heading. The 24-13 is a specialised little machine used for gathering. It is a chain stitch machine. Are there letters in front of the number 573104?
    3. keramikos, 5 months ago
      Hmmm, now we have a thirteen year old VSM post 'loved' back to the front page.

      It was identified way back then as a Singer model 24-13. The serial number was reported as "573104," and the late great Bernadette quite rightly asked whether there were letters in front of that number. She never got a response.

      The number "573104" by itself can't be correct, because while Singer did make the model 24 prior to 1900 when they started using letter prefixes on serial numbers, "573104" would put this machine into the range of serial numbers used in 1871:

      *snip*

      611,000 913,999 1871

      *snip*

      https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-no-prefix-serial-numbers.html

      The problem with that is Singer didn't start manufacturing the model 24 until 1888:

      https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/24

      So either the OP skipped a digit, or omitted the letter(s) prefix.

      On the theory that the serial number had a prefix, it could have been part of these two ranges:

      AB- 572276 573275 24 1000 April 19 1927

      https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-ab-series-serial-numbers.html

      AD- 572796 573295 24 500 December 21 1933

      https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-ad-series-serial-numbers.html

      We'll never know for sure, because the OP provided exactly one picture -- of the front the machine -- and the serial number on a model 24 is on the back of the base, e.g. (scroll down):

      http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/Singer%20Automatic%20Model%2024.htm

      A manual for the model 24:

      https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/pdf/sil10-201.pdf

      As to value, ISMACS expert D. A. Brumleve's advice is still good:

      https://ismacs.net/sewing_machine_articles/how_much_is_my_sewing_machine_worth.html
    4. keramikos, 5 months ago
      D'oh! Apparently, I'm having a math-challenged day (in addition to my other challenges).

      A serial number of "573104" would make it older than that first range of no prefix serial numbers at ISMACS.

      It's certainly not impossible for a Singer VSM to have a serial number that low, but again, the model 24 didn't make its debut until 1888, which would mean that the lowest its serial number could be would be seven digits:

      7,919,000 8,615,499 1888

      Otherwise, the only trace of model 24 VSM heads I found in the serial numbers were the ones in the aforementioned AB and AD prefix ranges. Both of those prefix ranges were cast at the Elizabethport factory:

      https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/singer_dating_by_serial_number.html

      https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/elizabethport

      It's still possible that it might have been cast at the Kilbowie factory (which opened in 1885):

      https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/kilbowie

      However, if it was, then it probably had a no prefix serial number.

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