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    Posted 1 year ago

    collectorp…
    (33 items)

    Anyone recognize this mark? I have 2 plates/chargers both with the same mark on the back and Im having trouble with identification.

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    LENOX HOLIDAY CHINA 5 PIECE PLACE SETTING-VINTAGE
    LENOX HOLIDAY CHINA 5 PIECE PLACE S...
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    Antique H & Co. Haviland & Company Limoges France Porcelain Oyster Plate
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    Royal Albert Bone China Old Country Roses 5pc Place Setting Rare Find Vtg 60's
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    LENOX HOLIDAY CHINA 5 PIECE PLACE SETTING-VINTAGE
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    1. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 1 year ago
      Chargers are made by Boch Belgium. The style is Delfts.
    2. collectorpaul collectorpaul, 1 year ago
      Thanks for the info
    3. keramikos, 1 year ago
      Just augmenting a bit what mp.kunst gave you. :-)

      I didn't see that exact backstamp at theoldstuff dot com, although I did see one very similar in English:

      https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/porcelain-marks/category/249-boch-freres-keramis-royal-boch-marks

      Here's a similar plate:

      https://www.etsy.com/listing/1021988017/antique-delft-blue-plate-o-39-cm-1535

      What I at first found interesting, and later maddening: many websites exhibiting china pieces with this image cite painter Otto Eerelman over and over, but I haven't been able to find the specific Eerelman painting that inspired it, e.g.:

      https://www.etsy.com/listing/229971487/rare-delft-chargers-two-delfts-blauw

      About Eerelman:

      https://www.invaluable.com/artist/eerelman-otto-0nk1iqxbe0/

      Pictures of Eerelman and his wife:

      https://www.greetsgenealogie.nl/gezinskaart-van-otto-eerelman-1839-1926/

      Some of his works:

      https://www.simonis-buunk.com/artist/otto-eerelman/artworks-for-sale/1420/

      Here is a popular Eerelman painting titled "Mrs. Carré on horseback":

      https://www.museum.nl/nl/stedelijk-museum-vianen/pronkstuk/mevrouw-carre-te-paard

      It's unclear to me whether the main human subject in the painting is an actual circus performer, or some society matron posing as such.

      I suspect the latter, because here is another Eerelman painting of Madame Carre and a horse:

      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/522487994271915341/
    4. collectorpaul collectorpaul, 1 year ago
      Thanks for all the info. I will check it out
    5. kivatinitz kivatinitz, 1 month ago
      Keramikos very interesting your findings
    6. apostata apostata, 1 month ago
      kiramikos is real skilled , this is hard to break, Walcheren or the Veluwe , probably a shut out of Walcheren because , is it an Sunday outing, probably not , different mounting, highbrow versus low brow , highbrow probably, see the hat, and the narrativw painter is a protege of Queen Wilhelmina, although there are low brow scenes

      This is a quite famous Dutch painter comtempory of Mezdag i believe

      Simonis and Buunk sells the type of ware ( oilpaintings)who are major players
    7. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 1 month ago
      Both chargers (better known as wedding plate or bride and groom in summer with carriage) are made in the second half of the 20th century by Royal Boch (Boch Frères Keramis) in La Louviere, Belgium for Royal Sphinx (formerly Petrus Regout) in Maastricht, the Netherlands.

      Nowhere I found on the internet (official sites) that the design of these chargers is said to be by Otto Eerelman, which does not rule out that it is his design, but until that is proven I would say that this is a tribute.
    8. keramikos, 1 month ago
      mp.kunst, Thank you, that makes sense. :-)

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