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Asian Antiques2610 of 3400wardrobe doorsAsian Creamer and Sugar Bowl, IE&C Co., Hand painted, Japan,  2" tall
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Posted 3 years ago

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This came out of the Grandparents estate boxes. The bottom has no mark but is an old "crackly"smooth porcelain(?), while the neck of the "urn" is rough, very hard and clay like, maybe unfired porcelain? I am tempted to take some more photos of each of the characters on this piece, as each male figure is so intricately done, and the glaze is three dimensional, in the small dots that embellish the whole piece. It is just a great piece to hold...it feels very unusual, how they managed to raise the dots in the glaze, and so many of them.It is VERY beautiful piece of pottery, I just wish I knew what it was. I had my kitchen roof collapse under rain and my computer wouldn't work where I stayed at next door...I missed my new colleagues at CW!! Glad to be back. Like I said, this is a huge mystery, any help would be great and would fill my empty brain on this one!! Thank you, as always, Mich

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
    Same reference: http://gotheborg.com/marks/index_jap_marks.htm

    I think this is called Satsuma; but not the finest of kinds.

  2. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 3 years ago
    There are no marks on this piece, but the other "Tea set" I posted, creamer and sugar bowl do have a mark that I found in your link. It was under ""Hand Painted/Japan", Sundry", #688,the IE&C Co.(?)(p.s.that's their question mark), unknown mark, early to mid century.
    Now there is no mark at all on this urn piece, so what do I look for? Is there something in the painting that gives away it's origin as Satsuma? This piece seems really old. I will take some photos of the four faces and maybe you might recognize the allegory. Otherwise, how can I tell this is Satsuma? Is it the method of glazing with bumps? Questions questions, i'm full of 'em!! thank you mt friend, mich
  3. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 3 years ago
    I see what you mean. The good satsumu was marked, and that for export had no marks. It definitely has the crackly bottom and the lack of any kind of ring when you tap it,( very hard earthenware, unglazed on the inside). Now I get it. There was only one piece I saw that seemed to have the bumpy surface, but I didn't enlarge all of them. thank you for your help. I have to go out to the Real Stormy World, CW is more fun. have a good weekend, everyone, Mich
  4. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 2 years ago
    Thank you for the love, Mich
  5. Manikin Manikin, 2 years ago
    Welcome back Michelle and I agree it is a Satsuma type of pottery I have one with much more detail , they are very pretty and I love yours !
  6. lundy lundy, 2 years ago
    hi thats a nice peice you have
  7. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 2 years ago
    Thank you for the love, everybody. This community is so welcoming!! Thank you, Mich
  8. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 2 years ago
    Thank you mani, I will have to post the four different Samurai on this piece. Each one is so dramatic!! Mich
  9. michelleamieux michelleamieux, 2 years ago
    Thank you for the love, these little samurai will be happy!! I will post the other three faces, they are so STERN!! Mich
  10. ItalianGlassDecor ItalianGlassDecor, 2 years ago
    HI Michelle

    The mark you refer to here "ICE & E Co" was used by an independent English company in the late 19th and early 20th century who used to travel to Japan and source only the finest hand painted wares from top Japanese kilns. They then exported them from Japan to England for the English market who couldn't get enough of Japanese Nippon ceramics. In order to keep the look and feel of Nippon wares, they used their own company name - IC & E within a green wreath, exactly the same as Nippon wares. The items they had produced are actually quite rare and a good area to begin collecting.

    Dean

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