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    Posted 12 years ago

    miKKoChris…
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    I found this beautiful portrait at a flea market. I thought that it was a water color portrait, but the proprietor showed me that it was originally a photo that had been hand tinted. The photo had since faded quite away, leaving only the faintest traces. The image that resulted looks very much like a water color portrait. The back of the photo shows graphics that indicate that it was printed on special paper. It doesn't look like the stock a painter would use for his work.

    I posted this today for use in my comments on lisahugheslong's beautiful horse 'painting'. Please have a look at her painting, "Beautiful Horse Painting - Hemment". It is marvelous. Both Bellin and I want it bad, but we are very happy that Lisa has it!

    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/61129-beautiful-horse-painting--hemment

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    1. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you kindly, Bellin!!! Did you notice that I mentioned that we both wanted lisahugheslong's horse painting "bad"? : )
    2. musikchoo musikchoo, 12 years ago
      Looks like a famous outlaw I have seen before in a Time life Book, but I can't pull up a name right away! Does he look familiar to anyone else out there? If I come up with a name I will let you know.
    3. scottvez scottvez, 12 years ago
      What you have is a PHOTOGRAPHIC image that was then hand colored. You can see the photographers (or painters) notations about the colors for the subject.

      Many were copy images of smaller photographs that were enlarged and put into frames.

      This type of image was typical of the 1860s- 1890s.

      Your image appears to be an albumen print and based on the format and clothing, I would date it to the late 1860s- 1870s.

      scott
    4. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you kindly, packrat, musikchoo, pw-collector, and scottvez!!! I appreciate your comments very much. : )

      Musikchoo, he has reminded someone else of an outlaw - Jesse James. To me, he doesn't look like James, but what do I know about outlaws? If you think of whom it reminds you, would love to hear of it! I might then place a sign on it: "This is not my ancestor."

      Scott, I hope my description wasn't inaccurate – it was not very thorough or enlightened. I greatly appreciate your comments and your knowledge!! I had heard of albumin prints, but had never seen one identified, and hadn't a clue as to their distinctive characteristics. Wonderful that you can provide this dating range! I remember seeing many photos of Confederate officers with facial hair fashions of the most elaborate kind, and when I saw this, I thought it might have been produced close to that 'period'.

      Thanks again, gentlemen, very much! miKKo : )
    5. scottvez scottvez, 12 years ago
      Glad to help out-- be careful of the "looks like" attributions.

      Cold identification (without provenance or some markings) is usually impossible to prove and "looks like" rarely IS. Unless the SAME image exists with an ID written on it or family provenance, it will be tough.

      scott
    6. musikchoo musikchoo, 12 years ago
      I do believe that is Correct!! Jessie James. See if you can pull up a Photo of him around that time period. I am almost sure I have seen thay exact photo of him!!
    7. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thanks much, Scott, for your advice on identifications! I gratefully take it to heart. Rest assured, if someone ID's the subject as a famous outlaw, I will entertain the ID only as a whimsical amusement. miKKo
    8. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Hi, musikchoo! Thanks so much. What fun! He must resemble James a good bit since both of you thought he looked like James. IMHO, they are not the same man. However, I do find them rather "like". : ) Follow some images of James.

      http://www.myspace.com/jesse_w_james/photos/20085737#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A20085737%7D

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_James

      http://investigation.discovery.com/investigation/crime-countdowns/outlaws/outlaws-02.html

      http://www.dialuptexas.net/texas_myths.htm

      http://www.google.com/imgres?q=jesse+james+outlaw+photos&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=498&tbm=isch&tbnid=aU1cXy2-AyMajM:&imgrefurl=http://crockettlives.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/life-goes-on-and-on-and-on/&docid=pOJLvNzBA34x4M&imgurl=http://crockettlives.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/jesse-james-dead.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=rXEpUND1N4ei2wWN4ICIBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=674&vpy=166&dur=824&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=124&ty=133&sig=115005048569992254244&page=2&tbnh=140&tbnw=186&start=16&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:16,i:188

      Thanks again, musikchoo! miKKo

    9. musikchoo musikchoo, 12 years ago
      I didnt mean to steer you down the wrong road--Sorry about that! Thanks for the sites!!
    10. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Musikchoo, you didn't steer me wrong at all! I am very grateful for your comments!!!!! It was great fun, and you made my day. As I said, someone else saw a likeness, too. It's just that I once bought a damaged painting very, very cheap because it was beautiful. I removed the frame. Wow! I saw the signature of Sir Joshua Reynolds, and I got all excited. Could I possibly have a Reynolds?!!! I was chagrined to discover that it was a copy of a WELL KNOWN Reynolds painting. So, I am now cautious of likenesses! I am not laughing at you at all - this unknown man does look like Jesse James. I am smiling at myself. Thanks again for your SUPER CONTRIBUTION! I always pay attention to what you say, sir. Regards, miKKo
    11. musikchoo musikchoo, 12 years ago
      Thanks miKKo
    12. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you kindly, mikielikessigns2!!! : )
    13. Micmac, 12 years ago
      Nice picture:)
    14. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you kindly, mikielikesigns2 and Micmac!!! : )
    15. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you kindly, walksoftly!!! : )
    16. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      Wow a great find MiKKo my fairy godmother that sent me muffins lol :-) Always love your posts !!!!!!!
    17. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you very much Bellin, scandinavian_treasures, and Manikin!!! : ) So good to see you! Hope your Saturday is a blessed. Bellin, I sold my vintage Hermes scarf, but it's possible I still have photos somewhere. I'll check. The Hermes scarf is 'the bestest'! I did, however, post my Battle of Yser medal today in place of the Hermes. I had to scan it since I'm such a poor photographer, so it doesn't appear nearly as beautiful as it really is. Thanks again, very much, kind friends! : D
    18. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thank you kindly, vetraio50!!! : )
    19. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 11 years ago
      Thank you very much, Luisa!!! : )
    20. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 11 years ago
      Thank you very much, PhilDavidAlexanderMorris , for your appreciation and very kind comment!!! : )
    21. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 11 years ago
      Thank you very much, Vestibule1965, for your kind appreciation!!! : )

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