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Posted 6 years ago


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Found this at a store. Great silver with what look like American Gorham marks and numbers, at least according to the online silver marks book I looked at. Glass with intertwined "circles" so to speak around the whole piece. Any comments?

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  1. Ryan Fleisher, 6 years ago

    This exact piece just sold on eBay for $1500. It's in a variation of J. Hoare's wedding ring and I've seen another one before. I believe it to be a miniature loving cup.

    Hope this helps,
    Ryan Fleisher
  2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Another one sold on ebay for US $24.99.
    "J. Hoare cut glass Wedding Ring cranberry sterling pad"
    How many handles does it have?
    Two or three?
    Amazing cutting!
    Thanks for introducing me to Captain Hoare!
    "John Hoare, more familiarly known as Captain Hoare, was a native of Ireland, born in the city of Cork, April 12th, 1822, and was the oldest but one of the large family of children of James and Mary (Courtney) Hoare. He learned the glass trade with his father in Belfast, and afterwards at the age of 20, left Ireland for England, where, in Birmingham, he worked as journeyman for Rice Harris at Five Ways [Islington Glass Works?], also Thomas Webb at Wordsley, afterwards acting as foreman and traveling salesman for the firm of Edward Lacey & Son, of Birmingham. He was also foreman for Lloyd & Summerfield, (The Park Glass Company), one of the oldest glass houses in England. In 1848 Mr. Hoare began business for himself, and in 1853 came to New York with his family, the extent of his finances on landing at Philadelphia being just half a sovereign. But being a skilled and experienced glass cutter he had no difficulty in finding a good situation. In New York he began work for E. V. Haugh[wout] & Co. on Broadway, and after one year, with five partners formed a glass cutting partnership, he being the active man of the concern. After two years Mr. Hoare bought the interests of two members of the firm and then organized under the name of Hoare & Burns. This partnership continued until 1855 [1857?], when Mr. Hoare purchased and became proprietor of the glass cutting department of the Brooklyn Flint Glass Company, State [S]treet, Brooklyn.

    In the same year the old and well-known firm of Gould & Hoare was formed, and continued until 1861, then being succeeded by Hoare & Dailey who were in business until 1868, when the senior member of the firm [Hoare] established a cutting shop in Corning, still retaining for several years his business interests in New York City, at the corner of White and Elm streets, and also at [Dorflinger's Glass Works], Greenpoint, Long Island. The business of Mr. John Hoare as a designer and practical cutter, has led the manufacturers of the United States, and to-day some of the best manufacturers in the business are men who learned the art of designing and glass cutting under his personal instructions. Some ten years ago Mr. Hoare partially retired from business by selling his business to Messrs. James Hoare, his son, and Geo. L. Abbott, equal interest, so that the business in the future will be conducted in the same manner as in the past, although the pleasant face and cheerful words of Mr. John Hoare will be sadly missed by his associates and the small army of employees, as well as many customers who knew and loved him well. "
  3. Ryan, 6 years ago
    vetraio50 - that was a mouse pad, not a piece of glass. The piece featured on the mouse pad however, would easily bring close to $100,000 at auction.

    Ryan Fleisher
  4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Hi, Ryan! A mouse pad? You live, you learn. Many thanks!
    One just like this sold in 1996 at Woody Auction House in Kansas. Same silver pattern handles and etc. This was advertised as an ice bucket not a minuture loving cup. It sold for $8,000.00 in 1996. Great discussion. Any questions you can contact me at or
  6. mark mark, 6 years ago
    Great, Great, Great! Mrs. Matthews is correct. Wonderful to see this piece again.

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