Posted 9 months ago
Carol777
(23 items)
Hi community
Anyone have information on this unusual carlton ware pattern please?
Many thanks
Carol
Carlton Ware Daisy with Spiky Leaves | ||
| China and Dinnerware20 of 6205 |  |  |
Carlton Ware Daisy with Spiky Leaves | ||
| China and Dinnerware20 of 6205 | | |
Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate
Posted 9 months ago
Carol777
(23 items)
Hi community
Anyone have information on this unusual carlton ware pattern please?
Many thanks
Carol
Help us close this case. Add your knowledge below.
Create an account or login in order to post a comment.
Hi, Carol777. :-)
Google Lens found what looks like a twin:
A CARLTON WARE LUSTRE DISH. YELLOW WITH YELLOW DAISY-LIKE FLOWERS AND SPIKY LEAVES. L.170mm"
https://www.cordys.co.nz/auctions/T0021/catalogue/0258
So Lustreware, huh?
Google Lens found a similar Carlton Ware piece in the same shape and decor. The site suggests that it's of circa 1940s vintage:
https://en.todocoleccion.net/antiques/plato-carlton-ware-art-deco-dish-platter-rare-pattern~x430049322
Here's the same Carlton Ware shape in a different decor that's described as being of 1930s vintage:
https://www.sbkusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=918054
Anotheer listing for a pair of Carlton Ware pieces in the same shape, but a different decor:
https://www.sbkusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=918054
In fact, I see quite a bit of that Carlton Ware shape out there, but so far only two pieces in that same decor.
Replacements dot com has some Carlton Ware, but not that particular pattern (Fisl 7916 4277?):
https://www.replacements.com/china-carlton-ware-england/b/001-904700
More about Carlton Ware:
https://www.carltonwareworld.com/typesofware.htm
https://www.thepotteries.org/features/carlton.htm
Not a whole lot out there. :-(
So, assuming (yeah) that it's genuine, it can't be older than 1926 because that style of backstamp was registered in 1926).
As to the 1940s vintage per that one website, dunno how they arrived at that opinion.
As to the name of the pattern, it might not have a name other than 4277. A lot of china patterns don't have anything more than a numerical name.
I found that characterization of the finish as "Lustre" interesting. It really doesn't look like lustreware to me.
Many thanks, that's wonderful information. Seems to be a rare pattern - it does have a slight sheen to it, but not what would normally be considered lustreware, quite right. Intriguing amount of marks too - guess it relates to painting by hand.
Carol777, You're very welcome, I'm sorry that I couldn't find more.
Interesting about your perception of a sheen.
I never thought about the possibility of some of those back marks having to do with
hand-painting.
BTW, I do think your piece isn't counterfeit, because it it were, I should think we'd see more pieces than three.
The reality is probably that there are indeed more, but they're still in people's attics, cellars, etc.
Thanks for all the wonderful comments.