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Posted 14 months, 15 days ago
rocklandman
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I just aquired this photo today looks authentic, can anyone Id the type of uniform it is, South or North , I know he is some type of officer by the buttons?? If by chance a real History buff out there might even know who this is?? please let me know.
Thanks
John
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Sure looks like General Custer to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_Generals_(Union)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_Generals_(Confederate)
See if you can find the guy in those lists.
Hmm..that didn't work, go here, and scroll down and click the links for the yanks and the rebels:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Civil_War_generals
that is gen. philip kearney born june 2 1815 in new york and died sept 1 1862 in chantilly virginia in the second battle of bull run. just google his name and you can find out all about him
Wow, big time dude. How'd you know it was him Vanskyock24?
i do civil war shows in the summer times in hartford city indiana so i know quite abit about the civil war
You mean, Suh, the "War of Nothern Aggression" ?
WoW !!! thank you GUYS, Vanskyock24 your my new hero !!!
Thank you soooooooo much !!!
John
Hey Vanskyock24, just did wiki search, NOW i'm scared,,,, mine is same pic as wikipedia???? Could mine be fake??? doesn't look it, what do you think, check wiki.
John
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701-1&va=philip+kearney
Just a different printing of what appears to be the most famous photo of him.
Fake? ... as in "Not a period Piece" ?
... Show the back of the photograph.
... Photograph the photo instead of scanning it.
... show the photograph with a dark background to allow the edges to standout.
Only then can I tell you more.
new images taken with camera not scanned, back has no photographer id?
That is period, pretty cool.
i agree 100 percent with viking
Old print.
so ar8Jason do you still think it is Fake???
I never did think it was fake. Your statement left the possibility in "looks authentic" and there was no clear detail in the scan to indicate age of the print. The photo however shows age to the outside edge of the print. Clearly old.
Thickness was not indicated in either the scan or photos, but the period photographic pieces would have been rather thick. Some cheap prints printed on a printing press are on thin card stock. Though still old, not nearly as desirable as the photographic produced.
Thanks for the comments, I think something this historic will have to be authenticated, just to make sure.
Thanks
John
I saw several of these today at the antique mall, some with dates, some not. Youre looking at something that is at least 140 years old.
John,
What part needs to be authenticated beyond that which has been done here?
The age is clear. I have seen hundreds of images of this era and own likely a hundred myself. It is old. Two other competent posters to this site have told you the same.
I have good reason to believe it is a printing press print vs a photographic print. This is evident with the dark shading behind him and no back ground, and the fade out below. The printing lines in the image tells us that as well. Also the fact that it is only a partial print of the original image would lend to what is already clear. See link provided below.
As to who this is, it is clearly Gen. Phillip Kearney. It is a "known" image, or more correctly "part of a known image." You may go to the link provided below to see the full image with information about the Gen. Kearney.
It is what it is ... an old CDV image of Gen. Phillip "the One Armed Devil" Kearney.
As far as historic, the image is not unique in any way, so I would say "historical" instead of historic. There are others out there and a lot more of them than a photographic image would have. But it is still a good piece.
Of the posters to this site, you have had some of the best, tell you what you have, and for the average "antique appraiser" they would only dream to have the representative knowledge presented here today. If you took this to the Smithsonian, they would confirm every bit of what I just said and most of the posters here today. (Forgive YARDSALEDAVE, he is usually very good).
If you took it to a "yellow pages" appraiser, it is impossible to predict what they say, because their competence or lack of competence in antique photos and prints will determine the answer you get. They rarely will tell you they are not competent in the area you are willing to pay them to give them advise.
Here is all the further appraisal you really need.
http://www.njhm.com/kearny2.htm
ar8Jason, So i am pretty new to this site, I do appreciate all the comments made by the posters on this site. Did not mean any disrespect.
Thank you again
John
There is no need to apologize. No offense taken.
All I was trying to tell you is you have already had this identified and authenticated bu some rather good people. There are some that post here that know what they are doing, some that don't. Some times we take educated guesses or ask questions for more information. I am not afraid to say that something is a guess. There are other things that I have no doubt about. This is one of them. My wife has taught photography in public school. I have 40 years of photography behind me. I am a "History Buff" and teacher of history. Civil War is a major interest to me. I have seen hundreds of period images and own about a hundred CDVs including some by Matthew Brady of Pres. Abe Lincoln. I have many many books on Mathew Bradys photography, which is the same time period as your CDVs. I don't call myself an expert, much less one on photography, but I do know what this is.
I am telling you, this is, what you have been told it is. There is no reason to doubt it. That is all.
I know it may seem to good to be true, but it is true. This is true also with your CDV of Alexander II Tzar of Russia. It is a genuine period piece as well. It is the same period as this one I would add.
The main kudos goes to vanskyock24 for nailing the identity so quickly. That would have been the hard part for me.
Your image is called a CDV or carte de visite. Yours is a lithographic view and NOT an actual "from life" photograph. Both type of cards are printed and reproduced the same way-- both are albumen prints that were contact printed from a glass plate negative. The difference is how they began life. The lithograph was made by an engraver (many times from a photographic print). A photographic CDV was made from an actual sitting of the subject (originally). Since these type of cards were the baseball cards of the era and eagerly desired by patriotic citizens they were produced in large quantities. Most cards carry photographers information on the back. Unscrupulous photographers would buy and copy other photographer images and then sell them. Many of these pirated views do not have photographers information on the back. Yours may be a pirated view, altough many of the lithographic views do not have photographers information on them.
AR8 Jason,I was tad there in San Diego in 1978.Repair ship right?Where do I find someone who might have cdv`s pictured and cataloged.I bought one this weekend and would like to identify it.It`s an Abbott,480 Albany,I know needle in a haystack thanks David Martin Sidney,Ohio