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Posted 11 months, 13 days ago
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I found this at a garage sale today and apparently it was from a relative that came to the US around 110 years ago. So it would seem to be old. It is about 9 inches in diameter.
If anyone can provide any information related to it I would be very grateful and appreciative. Quite possibly when it is from and if it might be a more rare collectable piece.
Thank you as always everyone for looking and any information you may provide. Have a blessed day! : )
When you are told something is old "because it came from their Great-Grandmother," the next question you should ask is "when did your Great-Grandmother die." Only then does that give a reference to age.
I have several things that were given to me by a woman born on July 4, 1909. Does that mean they are old? I hope not. She gives me Snicker bars and Three Musketeers she buys at Wal-Mart. She is still alive, and not all she has is old, in fact little that she has is old. She is doing quite well and will be giving me things for some time to come I hope. She has given me some old things, but because it comes from an old person does not make it old. If they said that this was brought over with the relative 110 years ago that would give reference to its age. (They would however be wrong or lying as this is not that old.)
Second, an antique dealer post to Mike Wofle's FaceBook page a bill he claimed to be genuine. When I asked what made him think it was genuine, he said "it had been in the family since it was printed." That is entirely possible as it was printed likely in the 1960s not the 1860's, but it was beyond a doubt a fake.
As to age, I can not tell you, just some advice when getting the story from someone.
Carnival glass is produced today and the oldest is not yet 110 years old.
"Carnival glass originated as a glass called 'Iridill', produced beginning in 1908 by the Fenton Art Glass Company." WIKI ...
Look for wear where the piece contacts the surface upon which it sets. An old piece, unless it spent its entire life being carefully handled (possible but rare) will have some rub marks to show age. This is faked by some, by using sand paper, but natural wear does not all go in one direction, and faked usually does.
Second, an antique dealer post to Mike Wofle's FaceBook page a bill he claimed to be genuine.
Should have said that the bill claimed to be a Confederate bill.
Carnival glass is my specialty:)
This plate is an easy one to ID at that, its an Imperial Smooth Rays Plate the Imperial Starburst base pattern gives it away, oddly enough its around 110 years old... its some what scarce but the value doesnt reflect that sadly...
After all the above info , this is a very very stunning bowl !!
http://www.ddoty.com/comimpsmoothrays.html
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If you are going to collect Carnival Glass you will want to bookmark this site.
I am grateful for your comments AR8Jason. You make some very valid points that I will for sure keep in mind with any future circumstances like this one.
Shawnl86 I really appreciate your effort in providing this information to me! So the little old Grandma at the garage sale wasn't trying to have me buy all her stuff by giving me a bunch of BS! : ) I would appreciate if you can give me some feedback on the other two carnival glass items I put up. If not no biggie. Have a great night!
I appreciate the love and comment Robyn! Thank you so much for enjoying this item as well Shawn.....
As far as age, the beginning date for Carnival according to the site posted is 1907, making this a maximum 104 years old, but remember this is only that old if created that year.
Once they started the pattern, they continued to produce the pattern for some time, often years. A pattern started in 1907 and continued through what is considered the "original period" to 1930, would not be date-able to 1907, but to the window of 1907-1930, making the piece a MAXIMUM of 104 years old and a MINIMUM of 81 years old.
The year this pattern was started and ended, if known can help you date the piece, if it was not reproduced in the 1960 and following.
FROM THE SITE POSTED ...
Imperial In 1901, a group of investors organized the Imperial Glass Company in Bellaire, Ohio. When the factory was up and running 1904, Imperial, like other makers, made crystal. When the Carnival fad hit, Imperial, along with Northwood, Dugan, and Millersburg, followed the lead of Fenton. Their production continued until the early 1930's and in the early 1960s, reintroduced their line of iridescent glass. Imperial's famous IG logo was applied to this glass. In 1972, Lenox glass bought the company and added an "L" to the IG mark. In 1981, Aurhur Lorch bought the company and added an "A" to the LIG mark. That venture lasted a year when it was sold again and went out of business a year after that.
Is it marked?
AR8Jason you are so awesome for providing all the information that you have! Your effort is appreciated. Unfortunately there is no mark on the item....
I am wondering then if there is no mark, that the older items may not have had marks. It is noted the newer did...
Thank you Robyn, hedge, and vintage for the love!! It is much appreciated....
Thank you for stopping by to take a look at my items bratjdd and for showing some love! See you 'round... : )